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Posted on 2/11/26 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4138 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 5:26 pm to
He won’t vote for anything that sneaks in spending on nonsense
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41352 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 6:44 pm to
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No. It does not Dishonesty is your currency, though.


How so? You don’t want the feds fixing the problem, and seem to understand an amendment can’t be passed due to liberal opposition, so the 3rd option is just accepting it.
What other choice is there? You need to explain this is more detail.

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Again, your framing is dishonest. The "culture war" is a vacillating thing and not a binary win/loss scenario.


No. It’s not dishonest. This does not vacillate enough for your point to have any merit.

There is a clear difference between far left woke nonsense and normal common sense, and the direction they each take us.

The negative effects of far left woke nonsense makes that choice a clear loss.

It’s a win if common sense wins out.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41352 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 6:47 pm to
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Only within a dishonest framing you're trying to force. In reality, it's nothing of the sort.


You are wrong. Just because you don’t like the framing doesn’t mean it’s not reality. Some idea applies to libs who think men can get pregnant and should be allowed to enter girl Athletic events. They are wrong too.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471822 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:15 pm to
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You don’t want the feds fixing the problem

I don't think it's their jurisdiction or Constitutional role, is the accurate description.

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so the 3rd option is just accepting it.

Not a logical conclusion.

We have a system and there are rules to that system.

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There is a clear difference between far left woke nonsense and normal common sense, and the direction they each take us.

The negative effects of far left woke nonsense makes that choice a clear loss.

It’s a win if common sense wins out.

If you can't understand the problem with this framing, I don't think I can help
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22423 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:24 pm to
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I don't think it's their jurisdiction or Constitutional role, is the accurate description.

What isn't their jurisdiction?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471822 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:27 pm to
Encroaching on the state domain of their elections outside of regulations imposed via the slave amendments.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12198 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:33 pm to
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I don't think it's their jurisdiction or Constitutional role


Article One, Section Four says it clearly is.

At least for Congressional elections.

It really couldn't be more clear in the Constitution.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
19164 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:34 pm to
He has a life. He is probably a paid shill for the Dims. Has their talking points down.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
88044 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:34 pm to
Slowselectivepro I am stunned!
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
1901 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:39 pm to
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Pass it and if it's unconstitutional allow the Judicial to check it.

Not responsive to my post.

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When your party is in power used the system.

So if there is no set of principles to define a "Republican", how can anyone either be a Republican or RINO? How do you distinguish between the 2 labels?


Because dimtards are actually stealing elections it is necessary to take measures to make it more difficult to steal elections.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22423 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:08 pm to
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Encroaching on the state domain of their elections outside of regulations imposed via the slave amendments.

How does that square with DOJ (under Obama) suing the state of Arizona (twice) over proof of citizenship requirements and the supreme court striking down those AZ laws, but only for federal elections. Proof of citizenship can be required for state/local elections.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41352 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:28 pm to
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If you can't understand the problem with this framing, I don't think I can help


You haven’t explained what the problem is, so there is nothing to misunderstand.

The question then becomes, what exactly is the problem with this framing?

This a major detail you are leaving out.
Posted by Arkaea79
Member since Sep 2022
1049 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:31 pm to
He's not a RINO he's a democrat in sheeps clothing. He always votes with Dems and finds insane reasons to ruin Republicans
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127469 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:04 pm to
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So let me ask you, is every single federal action "against states rights"?


SFP pretends to not know things when he needs to not know things.

If we had states acting in good faith, none of this would be necessary. But states are purposefully not being stewards of their voting processes. They are even allowing and enabling the violation of federal election laws.

It’s not “being in favor of states’ rights” to not challenge those blatant misuses of the electoral processes. Only dumb figs say it is.
Posted by First Sergeant1
Enterprise, Alabama
Member since Dec 2018
1014 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:27 pm to
He votes lock and step with democrats…. He’s not a RINO, he is a full fledged democrat
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22423 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:36 pm to
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He votes lock and step with democrats…. He’s not a RINO, he is a full fledged democrat

He voted for the SAVE Act.
Posted by First Sergeant1
Enterprise, Alabama
Member since Dec 2018
1014 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:39 pm to
That’s not being reported… unless I am overlooking something.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22423 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:42 pm to
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That’s not being reported… unless I am overlooking something.

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Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20175 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:45 pm to
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How does this not apply to the 215 who just voted against Republican principles (states rights)?



There are no "States Rights" if other states can cheat the system. Under the constitution, no state has more power than any other and this does nothing to change that, this is 100% constitutional and the legislature is within their rights to do it.

Your argument is like saying the federal government cannot arrest illegals in "sanctuary states" because "state's rights." gtfoh man
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39904 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:46 pm to
Ofc people on this board never know wtf they’re talking about
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