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re: Massie voted with Dems today to defund ICE.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:24 pm to Beef Supreme
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:24 pm to Beef Supreme
So masshole.did in fact vote against ICE
What a loser
What a loser
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:25 pm to Beef Supreme
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What if I told you the bill that passed actually did defund ice?
What if I told you you need to learn to read?
After all it is in your own quote!
The bill reduces funding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) enforcement and removal operations by $115 million, while keeping the overall budget for the agency flat.
That's not defunding. And you had to go to a DEM website to get their side of things.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:27 pm to SDVTiger
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What a loser
Just like his biggest defenders lying deputy dog and the massbots
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:40 pm to Beef Supreme
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What if I told you the bill that passed actually did defund ice?
7 democrats voted for the bill. Without those 7 crossing the aisle, the bill would have failed by 1 vote. Do you think the Republicans had to give concessions for votes because they knew they couldn't count on Massie?
If Massie had been a for sure yes vote, the Republicans could have passed any bill they wanted. But when you need the other side to pass something because you can always count on your own member voting against his party's agenda, you have to take what you can get.
Massie would be more effective if he worked with his party to get what he wants instead of being a solid vote for the party of communists, liberals, progressives, abortionists, illegals, criminals, welfare, fraud, and trannies.
But he's so principled. Hooray.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:44 pm to BCreed1
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What if I told you you need to learn to read?
After all it is in your own quote!
The bill reduces funding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) enforcement and removal operations by $115 million, while keeping the overall budget for the agency flat.
So I included the whole quote for transparency as to not be accused of cherry picking. You on the other hand didn't. You really need to look into these things rather than just surface level stuff and telling the people actually reading that they need to learn to read.
The bill reduced enforcement and removal operations by $115m. It reduced beds in detention centers by 5500. It also gave $20m towards providing ice with body cameras and the rest was put towards oversight and de-escalation training. Congrats. You're right. They kept the overall budget the same. Apparently that's all thats important. The bottom line. Not how the money is used.
They defunded the teeth in ice and shifted it to oversight, de-escalation training, and body cameras.
And sometimes you have to go searching around to see what the other side is cheering about in these bills to see what your side is keeping from you. But stay tribal.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:46 pm to Beef Supreme
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But stay triba
Says the only one here in support of Massie.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:52 pm to Furious
quote:So funding even bigger government is now considered Conservative.
He is not and has never really been a conservative.
Interesting.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:54 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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Do you think the Republicans had to give concessions for votes because they knew they couldn't count on Massie?
That's a good point.
There were also 4 or 5 Republicans that didnt vote as well to hurt the numbers even more.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:54 pm to TX Tiger
Why’s a libertarian in the Republican Party?
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:56 pm to Jugbow
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Says the only one here in support of Massie.
....bud do you know what it means to be tribal?
Edit: and I know how it appears, but again, i'm not supporting him. Just providing more information than "he voted to defund ice". Not saying I agree with his no vote. I would have voted for the bill. I've just seen this song and dance before from both sides. The oversimplification to make someone look insane. Remember all the times the left attacks Republicans bc they voted no on a bill that would "protect children from being sexually assaulted" or some issue that sounds like a no brainer? Only to dig in and find out that the bill was filled with pork and special earmarks for progressive shite? I just refuse to believe sensational headlines anymore.
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 12:02 am
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:00 am to Jugbow
quote:Because theoretically libertarians lean right. However, lately it appears that Republicans are leaning farther left than Democrats.
Why’s a libertarian in the Republican Party?
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:04 am to TX Tiger
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Because theoretically libertarians lean right. However, lately it appears that Republicans are leaning farther left than Democrats.
Pretty dumb to say this in a thread where your example sides with the democrats.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:15 am to Jugbow
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Pretty dumb to say this in a thread where your example sides with the democrats
You literally said earlier in the thread that you dont give a frick whats attached to the bill. For years Republicans have fought against democrats attaching shite to bills that shouldn't be there.
How you dont understand how libertarians lean right is wild to me.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:16 am to Beef Supreme
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How you dont understand how libertarians lean right is wild to me.
I never said they don’t. I continue to say they shouldn’t be in this party they obviously aren’t aligned with the party leader Donald Trump.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:29 am to Jugbow
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I continue to say they shouldn’t be in this party they obviously aren’t aligned with the party leader Donald Trump.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:30 am to Beef Supreme
Is that the Massie tribe?
Posted on 1/23/26 at 1:13 am to TX Tiger
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quote:
Why’s a libertarian in the Republican Party?
Because theoretically libertarians lean right.
They do not. They are open border and more. Maybe try looking on their platform..
Posted on 1/23/26 at 1:35 am to BCreed1
Massie is one of very few that actually looks at what's inside these bills. If the bill took funding away from ICE and Massie voted NO, then, by definition, he did not vote to de-fund ICE.
Stand alone bill, but, not really, because DHS is massive (it should be broken up). A true stand alone bill would have been for ICE/CBP and related deportation funding. Massie supports that.
What got passed pulled money away from ICE and deportation efforts, while keeping DHS funding static. Instead of getting angry at Massie, look at all the people that voted to reduce funding directly related to the deportation efforts. This bill should have been thumped hard by the Republicans. What Republicans did today was send a message that they don't support the sovereignty of this nation, or the integrity of our elections, or proper wages and employment for citizens, that they support taxpayer funded efforts to censor and violate rights, and that they're against Trump's agenda. That's where the heat should be.
Included in the bill that Massie voted against was funding for CISA, which is a censorship and surveillance platform for the federal government, aimed inward, not outward. CISA has been weaponized by Democrats, yet you guys are complaining that Massie wants to take away its funding. When Democrats take Congress and the White House again, don't complain about censorship then, if you're supporting that mechanism now.
Honestly curious why the Freedom Caucus voted for this bill. Apparently they did.
Massie quote: Every House Republican but one just voted to fund the “liberals' favorite censorship agency" (CISA) in the DHS bill.
I'm the one Republican who voted No.
I voted for the SAVE Act and support deporting illegals.
I don’t support online censorship.
House Judiciary Committee website in 2023.
New Report Reveals CISA Tried to Cover Up Censorship Practices
Today, the House Judiciary Committee and the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government released an interim staff report detailing how the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) — an agency within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) originally intended to protect pipelines and other critical infrastructure from cyberattacks — expanded its mission to surveil and censor Americans' speech on social media. The report entitled, "The Weaponization of CISA: How a 'Cybersecurity' Agency Colluded with Big Tech and 'Disinformation' Partners to Censor Americans," outlines collusion between CISA, Big Tech, and government-funded third parties to conduct censorship by proxy and cover up CISA's unconstitutional activities.
The Committees have been conducting an investigation into how the federal government coerced and colluded with private companies and other third-party groups to censor speech, including subpoenaing CISA for documents and communications on April 28, 2023. The Twitter Files and other public reporting have exposed how the federal government has pressured and colluded with Big Tech and other intermediaries to censor certain viewpoints in ways that undermine First Amendment principles.
Although the investigation is ongoing, information obtained to date has revealed that the CISA has facilitated the censorship of Americans directly and through third-party intermediaries. The report also details how:
CISA considered the creation of an anti-misinformation "rapid response team" capable of physically deploying across the United States.
CISA moved its censorship operation to a CISA-funded non-profit after CISA and the Biden Administration were sued in federal court, implicitly admitting that its censorship activities are unconstitutional.
CISA wanted to use the same CISA-funded non-profit as its mouthpiece to "avoid the appearance of government propaganda."
Members of CISA's advisory committee agonized that it was "only a matter of time before someone realizes we exist and starts asking about our work."
In response to mounting public scrutiny, CISA scrubbed its website of references to its domestic surveillance and censorship activities.
CISA should remind you of the Church Cmte reports from half a century ago, and the fact that our government has never reformed itself - and - Massie is one of very few people taking a stand against this misconduct.
Stop being meme fuel.
Stand alone bill, but, not really, because DHS is massive (it should be broken up). A true stand alone bill would have been for ICE/CBP and related deportation funding. Massie supports that.
What got passed pulled money away from ICE and deportation efforts, while keeping DHS funding static. Instead of getting angry at Massie, look at all the people that voted to reduce funding directly related to the deportation efforts. This bill should have been thumped hard by the Republicans. What Republicans did today was send a message that they don't support the sovereignty of this nation, or the integrity of our elections, or proper wages and employment for citizens, that they support taxpayer funded efforts to censor and violate rights, and that they're against Trump's agenda. That's where the heat should be.
Included in the bill that Massie voted against was funding for CISA, which is a censorship and surveillance platform for the federal government, aimed inward, not outward. CISA has been weaponized by Democrats, yet you guys are complaining that Massie wants to take away its funding. When Democrats take Congress and the White House again, don't complain about censorship then, if you're supporting that mechanism now.
Honestly curious why the Freedom Caucus voted for this bill. Apparently they did.
Massie quote: Every House Republican but one just voted to fund the “liberals' favorite censorship agency" (CISA) in the DHS bill.
I'm the one Republican who voted No.
I voted for the SAVE Act and support deporting illegals.
I don’t support online censorship.
House Judiciary Committee website in 2023.
New Report Reveals CISA Tried to Cover Up Censorship Practices
Today, the House Judiciary Committee and the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government released an interim staff report detailing how the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) — an agency within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) originally intended to protect pipelines and other critical infrastructure from cyberattacks — expanded its mission to surveil and censor Americans' speech on social media. The report entitled, "The Weaponization of CISA: How a 'Cybersecurity' Agency Colluded with Big Tech and 'Disinformation' Partners to Censor Americans," outlines collusion between CISA, Big Tech, and government-funded third parties to conduct censorship by proxy and cover up CISA's unconstitutional activities.
The Committees have been conducting an investigation into how the federal government coerced and colluded with private companies and other third-party groups to censor speech, including subpoenaing CISA for documents and communications on April 28, 2023. The Twitter Files and other public reporting have exposed how the federal government has pressured and colluded with Big Tech and other intermediaries to censor certain viewpoints in ways that undermine First Amendment principles.
Although the investigation is ongoing, information obtained to date has revealed that the CISA has facilitated the censorship of Americans directly and through third-party intermediaries. The report also details how:
CISA considered the creation of an anti-misinformation "rapid response team" capable of physically deploying across the United States.
CISA moved its censorship operation to a CISA-funded non-profit after CISA and the Biden Administration were sued in federal court, implicitly admitting that its censorship activities are unconstitutional.
CISA wanted to use the same CISA-funded non-profit as its mouthpiece to "avoid the appearance of government propaganda."
Members of CISA's advisory committee agonized that it was "only a matter of time before someone realizes we exist and starts asking about our work."
In response to mounting public scrutiny, CISA scrubbed its website of references to its domestic surveillance and censorship activities.
CISA should remind you of the Church Cmte reports from half a century ago, and the fact that our government has never reformed itself - and - Massie is one of very few people taking a stand against this misconduct.
Stop being meme fuel.
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Weird how his democrat buddy Ro Khanna felt about ICE. Same guy who actually wrote the Epstein bill, Massie jumped on to help.
Good job Massie I’m sure Ro Khanna is pleased.
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 1:50 am to Beef Supreme
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How you dont understand how libertarians lean right is wild to me.
Education time....
Libertarian Party (USA) National Platform:
As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty
The world we seek to build
Pause.... They talk about WORLD not USA. More:
These specific policies are not our goal, however. Our goal is nothing more nor less than a world set free in our lifetime
We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose.
That says if a guy wants to act like a girl and the organization decide to allow IT to compete against girls.... That's his right.
Governments throughout history have regularly operated on the opposite principle, that the State has the right to dispose of the lives of individuals and the fruits of their labor. Even within the United States, all political parties other than our own grant to government the right to regulate the lives of individuals and seize the fruits of their labor without their consent.
Wrong. Our constitution does that was voted on and ratified. This is where we have a massive difference. Conservatives believe in limited Gov as laid out in the Constitution. This is not that. This is more anarchy.
We oppose the administration of the death penalty by the state.
The only proper purpose of government, should it exist, is the protection of individual rights.
Back to Anarchy
Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders.
Open borders... and no gov. Sound like a take over ready to happen.
Now let's move to their "Issues" page.
Immigration Reform:
Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible.
A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.
LGBTQ equality has always been a staple of the Libertarian Party’s beliefs, as the rights of all should be protected, as long as they do not interfere or supersede the rights of others. Numerous assaults on the rights of the LGBTQ communities are results of government intervention into what should be private contracts or relationships between consenting adults, parental rights, and property rights. When these interventions are removed, the incentive for conflict, and hatred, are removed as well, and people are free to associate with those who hold their beliefs most closely.
I could go on, but my point is made.
They are open border, globalists who lean towards anarchy.
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