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Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
40283 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:44 pm to
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Elimination of federal loan guarantees altogether,


This needs to be done asap, I agree there.

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combined with a deduction against loan repayments (that may already exist, I do not know).


Yea this is the part I can't really come up with much else. The loans that are already outstanding, the only solution I can think of besides just telling them to deal with it, is going to be some level of forgiveness, it will just vary on how much.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:45 pm to
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Stick your head in the sand and pretend that the current state of higher education and its financing is just fine and dandy.

A lack of any response from the GOP will result in a lot of young, disillusioned voters turning to pinkos.



His response telling me to vote democrat is a hilarious self own and demonstrates a complete lack of self awareness. Be careful what you ask/wish for, you might just get it.

The state of higher education as it exists in the United States right now is something that I would classify as a national emergency, an absolute crisis. We have way too many people in college right now and people in charge of academia have gotten filthy stinking rich off of younger generations while running the schools as leftist indoctrination centers.

And the longer the GOP does not act, make any serious proposal for this crisis, the more that democrats will corner this issue.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:45 pm to
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Uhhh...HempHead doesn’t support Bernie.


Any idiot that thinks taxpayers should foot the bill for other idiots is a fricking Liberal.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56597 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:46 pm to
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Any idiot that thinks taxpayers should foot the bill for other idiots is a fricking Liberal.



Calm down, brotherman. I think you have me confused with someone else.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:46 pm to
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Yes, me, the man using pinkos as a pejorative.


YOU should volunteer to pay for it.

Read my sig and learn.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
40283 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:47 pm to
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If you had a big loan forgiveness program what would you do for future generations? It wouldn't do anything to control costs moving forward.



Agree'd, which goes to Hemp's first point about eliminating the federal guarantee.

Clearly this is a two problem issue.

1. What do we do about the current debt that is out of control
2. What do we do to make sure it doesn't happen going forward and we reel in costs.

Right now, the Dem's are banking on just using loan forgiveness to be their answer to 1, and then just don't seem to care about 2. Probably hope it just buys them enough time.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138403 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:47 pm to
He ain't one of them damn queer snowflake millennials, baw!

He only listens to Hank Jr and Limbaugh, baw!
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56597 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:48 pm to
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YOU should volunteer to pay for it.



Could you please cite any instance where I have suggested that the taxpayer should foot the bill? TIA
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53318 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:48 pm to
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He only listens to Hank Jr and Limbaugh, baw!

I like Hank Jr and Limbaugh
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76694 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:49 pm to
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Any idiot that thinks taxpayers should foot the bill for other idiots is a fricking Liberal.



You are as staunchly unreasonable as the Bernie Bros.

No one said to pay it off, but something needs to be done or you will alienate an entire generation because you are completely unreasonable.

I would rather find a way to fix it now before those individuals become entrenched in the pinko mentality.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 3:50 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138403 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:50 pm to
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I like Hank Jr and Limbaugh
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:50 pm to
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If you had a big loan forgiveness program what would you do for future generations? It wouldn't do anything to control costs moving forward.



Or we could just make student loans illegal afterwards? Sounds radical and crazy but it would be the best thing for America.

Your options after that would be an athletic scholarship, convincing a business to pay for your degree that you would use to work for them, or pay for it yourself straight up.

The student loan industry as it exists right now is a big scam that is drowning an entire generation and will destroy more generations if we don't stop it.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6363 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:52 pm to
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Millennials represent 30% of potential voters. Old enough to be politically engaged, but young enough to be blind to the lessons of the 20th century. They own social media and are sitting in news rooms all over NYC and DC.

They’ve been fully indoctrinated by 20 years of dem class warfare. Republicans are racists... Nazis...fascists. People like Che and Chavez are romanticized as hero revolutionaries. That’s what they’ve heard their entire lives.

They are keeping Bernie afloat.


Upvote. There's a book in that if you'll tackle it. Spot on.
Posted by MacDaddy00769420
Member since Feb 2020
5 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:53 pm to
I don’t think Bernies promised me anything truly “free”. I’m voting for him because a nationalized system that’s is funded by tax payers is way more efficient and humane than what we have now. It’s also what every other decent country has, you go anywhere in Europe and tell them how much a surgery cost and they’d faint.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
40283 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:54 pm to
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I’m voting for him because a nationalized system that’s is funded by tax payers is way more efficient and humane than what we have now.




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go anywhere in Europe and tell them how much a surgery cost and they’d faint.

No, they fainted because they were still waiting for the surgery that I had already gotten.

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Oh
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 3:55 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56597 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:54 pm to
I'm all for a variety of competing solutions to the financing of education.

I've advocated for a system of university-sponsored cost in exchange for X% of income over Y years. I think this would drastically limit the number of bullshite degree seekers, since a university would be hard pressed to find good employment v cost for students who study intersectional African queer studies.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:54 pm to
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They pay more in a year than you do in a decade. They pay more in a decade than you do in your life.

Tell me again about “fair share”


Just another example of people hating on successful people.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:55 pm to
Denying care to those deemed unworthy is humane?

Waiting for months or years is efficient?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53318 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:55 pm to
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I don’t think Bernies promised me anything truly “free”. I’m voting for him because a nationalized system that’s is funded by tax payers is way more efficient and humane than what we have now. 

You better be prepared for the government to prop up thousands of hospitals as well with Medicare for all.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:55 pm to
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I've advocated for a system of university-sponsored cost in exchange for X% of income over Y years. I think this would drastically limit the number of bullshite degree seekers, since a university would be hard pressed to find good employment v cost for students who study intersectional African queer studies.


Making universities cosign the loans would be outstanding.
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