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Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:45 pm to
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However it boggles my mind how knowledgeable they are, but can't figure out how do a simple formula in excel or attach files to email. That is only rivaled by their unwillingness to learn those things as if it's some skill that takes decades to master.

Since we're on the subject. Have you noticed the other odd age related tech thing?

Namely, that now, YOUNG workers are fricking computer illiterate? This boggles my mind more. How does one graduate college and still treat MS Word like it's a typewriter with a screen?

I find that the tech savvy we saw from especially early millennials has regressed in late millennials and the new generation. THese people are good at phones, and not much else.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:48 pm to
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And because you can play on your I phone doesn’t mean you know more than a man with 40 years experience. I’m 49 and I realize that there is a lot to learn from a 60 year old that has been in the industry for 40 years. Maybe you should open your eyes and ears and see that there is always something to learn from someone that has been doing it for a lifetime. One day you will grow up.


This is definitely true. But, you have to admit that there are a lot of folks our age who literally say out loud, "yeah, I'm not that tech savvy" in relation to what really ain't hard shite
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:48 pm to
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There are jobs everywhere, but you don't have leverage in smaller markets. They expect you to be grateful you get a paycheck. frick that.

I'm college educated and I've spent much of my career in Baton Rouge and make roughly the national average for my job title and years of experience. I've changed jobs multiple times in this area over the past 20 years. My first house cost 135k too. It was 1400 sq ft and kind of in the sticks
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 6:50 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127180 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:51 pm to
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But the estate is required to pay debts before the heirs get anything.


Federal student loans are not passed on. Period. Full stop. Not to an estate. Not to heirs.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:58 pm to
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Well you're the only one I know

Don't get me wrong, the experience in my office from the older folks is unparalleled.

However it boggles my mind how knowledgeable they are, but can't figure out how do a simple formula in excel or attach files to email. That is only rivaled by their unwillingness to learn those things as if it's some skill that takes decades to master


Humorously, I’m 37 and my boss is 62. Whenever we’re in word or excel he has to help my dumbass with formatting and cell formulas.

I’m his network engineer and am multiple times over certified as an “expert” in my field.

He couldn’t code or type in CLI to save his life.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:00 pm to
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Whenever we’re in word or excel he has to help my dumbass with formatting and cell formulas.

This is basically me. I design cloud and hybrid cloud IT solutions. I probably do something more complex than simple arithmetic in Excel once a year.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 7:04 pm
Posted by MI LSU
NYC
Member since Oct 2009
1136 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:06 pm to
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I'm college educated and I've spent much of my career in Baton Rouge and make roughly the national average for my job title and years of experience. I've changed jobs multiple times in this area over the past 20 years. My first house cost 135k too. It was 1400 sq ft and kind of in the sticks


I envy you, honestly. I hate NY, and I miss Louisiana (I was only there for four years, but I loved it), but the reality is that in many fields, your job has you in a choke-hold in small markets. I startedy current job in Michigan and I had a magnanimous boss who told me after six months: "I love you kid, but there are seven people in this office, and nobody quits. If you stay here, you'll always have a job here, but you'll never get promoted. If you're happy in your spot, I'd love to keep you, but if you're not, you have to get the frick out of here."

I took his advice and here I am. My industry is expanding to weird new markets (for it), so I'm looking elsewhere now, but until we live in a truly remote-work world, many people like myself are going to have to be stuck in big cities even if we hate them.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53318 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:12 pm to
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I envy you, honestly. I hate NY, and I miss Louisiana

I lived in NYC in my early 20s. Upper west side. I made it about 15 months or so.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32023 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:43 pm to
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This is basically me. I design cloud and hybrid cloud IT solutions. I probably do something more complex than simple arithmetic in Excel once a year.



My boss was out and he was actually having me build the BOM for a very complicated hybrid cloud/on-prem firewall deployment that I would be doing and he had to join a zoom to show me where autosum was.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53318 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:46 pm to
I can usually use Google to find what I need but I'm much better with Powershell than Excel. I just don't use it that often.
Posted by KyrieElaison
Tennessee
Member since Oct 2014
2633 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:50 pm to
I’m 56 and I’m voting for Bernie.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53318 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:52 pm to
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I’m 56 and I’m voting for Bernie.

You were probably already a far left voter. Free healthcare got you or do you have kids that'll be starting college soon?
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22297 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:54 pm to
I'm a millennial and I'd Pinochet Bernie.
Posted by KyrieElaison
Tennessee
Member since Oct 2014
2633 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:56 pm to
I believe any civilized nation should have a healthcare system for all . We already have socialism. It’s corporate socialism. Tax breaks, favors for corporations which in turn donate to politicians and keep them in office. People don’t dislike Bernie because he’s a socialist. They dislike him because he speaks truth to power. The fact is very social program has been called socialism. It’s the right wings fear tactic when they can’t argue intellectually.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22297 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:59 pm to
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People don’t dislike Bernie because he’s a socialist.


I dislike him because he's a socialist.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53318 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:02 pm to
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It’s the right wings fear tactic when they can’t argue intellectually.

I don't mind arguing with you without calling you names. I think it will cost way more than even the most aggressive projections like most government programs do. Rich people won't pay for most of it. The middle class will.

They also aren't telling you about the low margins that most hospitals operate with. They make almost all of their profits on private insurance. The US taxpayer will be on the hook to prop up thousands of them in a Medicare for all scenario.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56597 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:03 pm to
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It’s the right wings fear tactic when they can’t argue intellectually.


I'm more than happy to engage in substantive, productive, and earnest discussion about the merits of Bernie's proposals.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32023 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:04 pm to
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They dislike him because he speaks truth to power


I dislike him because he weaponizes jealousy and envy and is trying to take power through his version of the truth.

Socialism is agreeable to a certain extent, but he’s using it for class division.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76696 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:06 pm to
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People don’t dislike Bernie because he’s a socialist.
I dislike him because he is a socialist.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76696 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:10 pm to
Also, I want you Bernie Bros to explain this from the UK.

LINK
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Doctors will have their tax bills paid by the NHS in a bid to avert a winter crisis caused by understaffing.

Thousands of medics will be offered an emergency deal, amid growing concern about the number of consultants refusing to work overtime because they are hit by a pensions “tax trap”.

The rules mean doctors can be hit with tax rates of more than 90 per cent on their earnings - including their pension contributions - if they earn more than £110,000 a year.

It means consultants are substantially cutting back on any overtime or weekend work as they can be taxed thousands for earning a penny over the threshold.
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Matt Hancock, health secretary, will today issue a ministerial direction instructing NHS chiefs to introduce a plan aimed at heading off an immediate crisis.

Last week official statistics revealed Accident & Emergency waiting times are the worst since records begun, stoking fears about how the NHS will cope this winter.

Under the new terms, clinical staff will be told that tax bills caused by overtime can be paid out of their pension, with the NHS committing to later topping up their pots, so the total value of them is not reduced.

The deal - for this financial year only - could cost the health service hundreds of millions of pounds, but will be spread over decades, as the money will not have to be found until medics retire.
The fact that it doesn’t work in a country 1/5th our size and you still want to go ahead with it is amazing.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 8:12 pm
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