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re: Millennials voting for Sanders
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:01 pm to ShortyRob
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:01 pm to ShortyRob
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You think the problem is that the current politicians are so corrupt, they can be bought.
yes that's what I think
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So, you think giving those politicians MORE power
I don't want any president to have any more or less power or authority than any other president
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:01 pm to beerJeep
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there isn’t a chance in hell. You’re a fricking fool
I think he has more support than people are giving him credit for which is terrifying in its own right. I don't think he'll beat Trump though and he'll be too old to run again.
Luckily, young people that support him are also the least likely to actually vote
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:01 pm to HT713
quote:Who said anything about just Presidents?
I don't want any president to have any more or less power or authority than any other president
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:03 pm to beerJeep
ok cool, $50 says I got bernie winning the general. do you want to take daddy alone, or are you taking the field? Wanna set up the terms of the bet here. I'm a sportsman
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:04 pm to HT713
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I don't want any president to have any more or less power or authority than any other president
By drastically altering the allocation of resources, you are wanting to alter the distribution of power. Under a Sanders' administration, the resources and power would simply be shifted further to the entrenched bureaucracy rather than corporate interests (who at least have to be concerned about a bottom line, even if they do not act benevolently).
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:04 pm to HT713
quote:But you do.
I don't want any president to have any more or less power or authority than any other president
Have you not read Bernie’s proposals?
You support a president who wants to control everything from housing to energy to financial institutions to banks to healthcare.
How is that not giving the presidency significantly more power?
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:04 pm to Klark Kent
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Millenial.
No chance in frick I vote for Commie Bernie.
#MAGA2020 let’s ride
Entering the chat. Pepelaugh.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:04 pm to MI LSU
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this doesn't warrant a serious response, but i'll bite anyway because frick it.
I'm voting for Bernie because politicians, on both sides of the aisle, are overwhelmingly self-serving, immoral megalomaniacs. They took jobs whose stated purpose is to serve their constituents, and instead they serve themselves and their buddies.
I love to bash Trump because he's a fricking idiot who also happens to be a self-serving, lying, immoral conman, but he's not THAT different than Bill Clinton and Obama. I would argue that both of those guys were better people than Trump (and certainly smarter), but I don't think they entered office to help the people. They did it to burnish their own image, and ultimately help themselves.
Bernie is not that dude. His record (except for a few gotchas) speaks for itself. He wants to help people, and is genuinely perplexed at the reality that so so so many people (deep south, represent!) vote against their interests. so he's trying to fix that. the fact that a man trying to implement policies that are trying to help others get stuff like fricking healthcare is getting branded as a devil is a testament to how fricked we are as a country.
I'm not going to convince any of you of my beliefs, or my worldview, as you're essentially split into two camps: low-info people who parrot the shite they hear on far-right conspiracy sites/Fox News, or you're too entrenched in your beliefs to objectively look at other viewpoints. so it is what it is.
for the record, his policies will murder my pocketbook, personally. my wife and I are in top tax bracket, so i imagine we're going to get hit pretty hard, no matter how you slice it. but we'll live in a country where it's no longer okay to do shite like bankrupt people to get cancer treatment, so that's a good thing to show our kids and future generations.
can't wait for the "frick you virtue signaler, commie, blah blah!"
have at it.
...and not a single post included an explanation of how his policies can be afforded or, more accurately, not destroy the economy.
The adults in the room know that they can't. They know that everything Bernie wants to do ends in financial ruin.
But, hey, you can pretend that people won't be bankrupted by getting cancer. Bankruptcy will be the norm and nobody will be able to afford cancer treatment.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:06 pm to fallguy_1978
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I think he has more support than people are giving him credit for which is terrifying in its own right
It will be a complete and total blood bath. Old bern isn’t going to reach 100 ev if he wins the nomination.
His fairy math doesn’t make sense even with the rosiest glasses on. The programs he is pushing for that BARELY work in tiny, ultra homogenous countries, WILL NOT frickING SCALE TO THE UNITED frickING STATES.
You are an imbecile of the highest degree if you buy into even one grain of sand of the bullshite that conman socialist frick is pushing.
Socialist deserve endless mocking and ridicule and to be made to feel like the subhuman scum they are.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:07 pm to HT713
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ok cool, $50 says I got bernie winning the general. do you want to take daddy alone, or are you taking the field? Wanna set up the terms of the bet here. I'm a sportsman
Oh. Oh no sweetheart. We’re talking the fricking presidential election.
I don’t give a rats arse about him winning the democrat nomination
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:07 pm to Scruffy
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You support a president who wants to control everything from housing to energy to financial institutions to banks to healthcare.
y'all sound like the triggered libs who were weeping in the street when daddy got elected lol
you think bernie is just gonna' snap his fingers and flip the system over night? virtually everything he does is going to have to get through congress. bernie absolutely still believes in democracy
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:07 pm to beerJeep
quote:Bernie scares me FAR more than you guys.
It will be a complete and total blood bath. Old bern isn’t going to reach 100 ev if he wins the nomination.
His base is as rabid as Trumps and even less educated.
That makes for a terrible combination.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:08 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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I’m not going to insult you, but he’s never held a job outside of government and is a multi millionaire with 3 houses.
this, again, isn't a bad thing, and I hate that we live in a world where this is used as some sort of "gotcha!"
he went into public service--a career where the goal is to help people. why is it something that shouldn't be rewarded? also, why does having money mean he's a hypocrite? if tons of people had money, it would mean more money in taxes. his system is just working to ensure people who have tons of money actually fricking pay, instead of dictating the rules through lobbying and outright criminality that ensure they don't.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:10 pm to Klark Kent
Millennial here, boomers ruined this country. Good thing Daddy Trump is here to fix it. MAGA
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:10 pm to HT713
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you think bernie is just gonna' snap his fingers and flip the system over night?
Do you support him in spite of his inability to enact his vision, or because of it?
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:10 pm to MI LSU
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this, again, isn't a bad thing, and I hate that we live in a world where this is used as some sort of "gotcha!"
Yes. Yes it is.
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his system is just working to ensure people who have tons of money actually fricking pay, instead of dictating the rules through lobbying and outright criminality that ensure they don't.
They do pay. More in a year than the dregs do in a decade.
44% of the country pays zero fed income tax. Why don’t you want them to pay their fair share?
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:10 pm to HT713
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you think bernie is just gonna' snap his fingers and flip the system over night? virtually everything he does is going to have to get through congress. bernie absolutely still believes in democracy
You are supporting a candidate who wants all of what I said.
You can’t say that you don’t want to the presidency to become more powerful because that is literally what your candidate’s position is.
He may not get every single thing he wants, but the end goal of every one of his positions is to increase the power of the presidency.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:11 pm to beerJeep
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s he is pushing for that BARELY work in tiny, ultra homogenous countries,
ho's are MAD mad. love to see it
ok that's our bet then - $50 on the general. if bernie doesn't win the dem nod, I lose and you can tell me where to send the money to
if bernie wins the general, I'll have to look for a good one that will really make a difference. instant thought was ACLU but that's a little basic. maybe SPLC?
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:11 pm to MI LSU
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this, again, isn't a bad thing,
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