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re: My Blackface story - with a twist
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:16 am to HubbaBubba
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:16 am to HubbaBubba
We could take a joke back then. Think about the TV show 'All in the Family' 1971-1979. Archie could talk about such things a race relations. There was even an episode where Archie went blackface.
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:17 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
Op is correct and Northam could have spent his time in leadership mending race relations based on his past. Instead he chose to be a hypocrite while driving a wedge between us for his and his parties own gain. We reap what we sow.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:19 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
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Back in the 1980’s people used to have a sense of humor when it came to race relations and being able to make fun of stereo-types and being able to laugh at yourself.
Are you folks going to try and tell me that you didn’t laugh at Mel Brooks and “Blazing Saddles”? Or laugh as Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy talked about whites and blacks?
Back in the late 1980’s I was in my high school band and we had a big football game on Halloween night. It was an away game in a small town in south Texas near Houston. We had a long bus ride to their stadium. The band director told us that instead of wearing our band uniforms, we all had to dress up in Halloween costumes.
One of our Drum Majors (white guy) and his best friend and lead trumpet soloist (black guy) thought it would be funny to dress up as the opposite race.
-The white guy showed up in blackface and he did a great job with the make-up. We could not tell that he was really white.
-The black guy showed up in a full KKK outfit (hood and all) and wore gloves so you could not tell that he was black. He wore the entire costume all during the 1st half in the stands prior to us going on the field to perform at halftime. (Didn't the black guy in "Blazing Saddles" dress up as a KKK guy?)
-During the halftime performance the black KKK guy had a trumpet solo and stepped out to play it. When he finished his solo, he pulled off his KKK hood to reveal that he was black. The local crowd roared with laughter. They all got the joke.
-Supposedly, on the Monday morning after the game, our band director got a phone call. It was from one of the head guys of the actual local KKK Chapter that was at the game who was supporter of our away opponents. (17 year old me didn’t know there were still people actually in the KKK back then! I thought the group had died out)
Anyway, he wanted to tell the band director that he thought the KKK outfit worn by our trumpet soloist was hilarious. They all got the joke.
My school was made up of whites, blacks and Hispanics. About equal distribution. Nobody was offended by the kids wearing costumes and pretending to be other races. Nobody. Not one complaint anywhere.
Times sure have changed.
You are adequately describing the era that I grew up in - Back in the 40s and 50s there were real racists - the KKK was active and they were universally denounced.
I recall not ONE racist incident during my life in rural Vernon Parish thru my graduating in 1956. Yes, I knew segregation existed and I was not visionary enough to become a Joan Of Arc activist thru my early teen years.
I remember once when I was about 10 yrs old asking my dad = "WHY are there 'colored' bathrooms in the Court House. And he said it was a matter of hygiene. that satisfied my young mind because from my experience it seemed to match the obvious environment I witnessed with my own eye.
YES - the condition of segregation was originally based on RACIST motivation. The INSTITUTION of segregation was a RACIST policy. A policy I grew up in with no input to or responsibility for. And as soon as I matured enough to evaluate the reality of the situation I joined in the outcry for its elimination. MLK was a genuine hero in my vision.
I even supported the inception of Affirmative Action - and I recall the debate over whether or not it would become a QUOTA system. I was satisfied that it would never become that - A senator from (MN?) made a declarative statement that "I'll eat my hat if this ever leads to quotas" this was back in the era where both Democrats and Republicans differed only on the emphasis of how to make America a greater place to live. I was convinced - I had no experience with politicians having 'hidden motives' I trusted people's word.
AND I believe the Democrats of that era were telling the truth - With few exceptions they really wanted to improve black opportunities. The problem was that there were some nefarious prime-movers (say Hello to LBJ) who saw this as an opportunity for THEM to create a new type of plantation for the 'liberate' black population where the plantation owners grew rich and powerful by harvesting not cotton but VOTEs...
This post was edited on 2/4/19 at 10:23 am
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:34 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
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My Blackface story - with a twist
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:39 am to sodcutterjones
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Nobody's outraged about the black face.
Dead on.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:40 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
Pretending to be offended has become a power grab, noting more.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:40 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
Epic!
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:45 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
Bill Maher, Chelsea handler or say, Jimmy Kinmel could get away with it.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:46 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
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Back in the 1980’s people used to have a sense of humor when it came to race relations and being able to make fun of stereo-types and being able to laugh at yourself.
So true- I hereby state that the race relations in this country were better in the 80-90's (mostly- excluding some well documented areas/problems) than they are now. It's like everyone forgot how well people interacted, got to know either other, were taught that skin color did NOT matter and now it's all about skin color and dividing people.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:49 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
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Supposedly, on the Monday morning after the game, our band director got a phone call.
I’m going to key in on this word because, well, yeah.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 10:57 am to piggilicious
I’m not sure race relations were necessarily better in the 80’s. At least not for all parties.
But they were what they were. We were only 10 years into forced desegregation. The first generation that had to live through desegregation were coming to age.
Movies like “Soul Man” with C Thomas Howell appearing as a black Harvard student was big at the box office. I didn’t find it racist. In fact I took a positive antiracist message away from the movie.
The problem is looking at pictures from 40 years ago and holding people in the pictures accountable by today’s ideology. It’s not really fair.
That being said, as a Gen Xer myself, I knew in the 80’s that a KKK outfit was never ok.
But they were what they were. We were only 10 years into forced desegregation. The first generation that had to live through desegregation were coming to age.
Movies like “Soul Man” with C Thomas Howell appearing as a black Harvard student was big at the box office. I didn’t find it racist. In fact I took a positive antiracist message away from the movie.
The problem is looking at pictures from 40 years ago and holding people in the pictures accountable by today’s ideology. It’s not really fair.
That being said, as a Gen Xer myself, I knew in the 80’s that a KKK outfit was never ok.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:13 am to Rebel
"The problem is looking at pictures from 40 years ago and holding people in the pictures accountable by today’s ideology. It’s not really fair."
This is exactly what the SJW want us to do to condemn the past. Condemn the founding fathers so they can condemn their works i.e. the US Constitution so they can give us a new government.
This is exactly what the SJW want us to do to condemn the past. Condemn the founding fathers so they can condemn their works i.e. the US Constitution so they can give us a new government.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:19 am to Rebel
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Movies like “Soul Man” with C Thomas Howell appearing as a black Harvard student was big at the box office. I didn’t find it racist. In fact I took a positive antiracist message away from the movie.
I don't think I ever watched that one but I remember it and I loved PonyBoy.
I just remember making friends and not giving a shite about their color- that seems a bit harder to do in this day and age because color is the most important factor in the world right now.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:25 am to Rebel
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That being said, as a Gen Xer myself, I knew in the 80’s that a KKK outfit was never ok.
You do realize that the person wearing the outfit was black, right?
Still not Ok?
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:31 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
I went as Jimmy Hendrix for Halloween back in 1992. I even had an afro! I'm blonde with fair skin but I was painted that night. 
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:36 am to sodcutterjones
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Nobody's outraged about the black face. It's the double standard not afforded to Kav and Roy Moore that's infuriating about this
This. I don't find it hilarious or anything just because it's been done so many times before. I DO find Dave Chappelle's whiteface character hilarious because there is actual humor there and he does it so well.
I'm not offended or outraged by either.
However, turnabout is fair play. You can't be outraged by everything and scream "RACIST!" at everything the opposite side does and then not have your OWN house in order. They made the rules of the game, they should have to live with them.
The same is true about digging decades back into people's history to find some mistake they made back then, while destroying them NOW for it. We didn't want this, it was foisted upon us against our will.
Context is important. Before the rules of the game changed, you'd probably see this as a tiny news blurb in a second-tier newspaper or website. It may have gotten passed around the internet and laughed at a bit. But now....
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:55 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
PC culture is not about the “offensive” acts or ideas themselves.
It’s about certain groups acquiring and asserting power over others.
This whole race mania is about minority groups asserting power over whites.
This story of the white professor being shouted down by black students because he told them to look away from something that offended them is a good example.
They aren’t sincerely offended. They are power hungry and vindictive.
And so the “can’t we all just relax and get along” idea is useless against them. They don’t want to get along. They want us to dance for them.
It’s about certain groups acquiring and asserting power over others.
This whole race mania is about minority groups asserting power over whites.
This story of the white professor being shouted down by black students because he told them to look away from something that offended them is a good example.
They aren’t sincerely offended. They are power hungry and vindictive.
And so the “can’t we all just relax and get along” idea is useless against them. They don’t want to get along. They want us to dance for them.
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:39 pm to cwill
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It had come down from national that this was no longer allowed
Ha Ha! The same "national" that allowed island natives caricatures to be used in combination with licensed fraternity logos?
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