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re: My Doctor fired me
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:36 am to wackatimesthree
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:36 am to wackatimesthree
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Sure, most doctors' egos can't stand a patient not asking "how high?" when they say jump, that's very true.
It’s not even necessarily an ego issue.
If your practice is doing well, why deal with a difficult patient when you don’t have to? They can be someone else’s problem and will inevitably come crawling back when something serious ails them.
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 9:37 am
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:37 am to NorCali
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And doctors fire patients because they are difficult or continually noncompliant which opens the doctor up for lawsuits when eventually something bad happens and the family sues because daddy wasn’t on the best medicines…
My experience as a physician employer for almost two decades is that doctors in general are very rarely thinking about covering themselves legally.
Mine weren't, at least. In fact, their recklessness (not necessarily with clinical concerns, more commonly HR nonsense, charting or lack thereof, etc.) is why I'm not still in that game. I wish they WOULD worry more about being sued instead of doing and saying idiot things and making ME sweat about lawsuits.
Not to mention—and this may just be my experience—I was the one always encouraging them to have "tough love" conversations with patients about following treatment recommendations. They always resisted it. Because they wanted to be liked. But my thing was, "If they aren't going to do what you've told them to do, they need to know that they likely won't get the results they want to get. And if they refuse to a significant degree to follow instructions, then what do they need you for? They can not follow your recommendations from the privacy of their own homes without paying a co-pay to get them."
YMMV, but that was my experience.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:37 am to wackatimesthree
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kids were in far more danger running around the neighborhood unsupervised in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and (especially) 90s than they are now.
Being born in 1966 and a kid in the 70's, gotta call Bravo Sierra on this. And I don't care what the "statistics" say.
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 9:40 am
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:40 am to Norbert
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It’s not even necessarily an ego issue.
Not necessarily, but IME that explanation fits.
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If your practice is doing well, why deal with a difficult patient when you don’t have to?
Because you took an oath to try to help people—not just the people who were easy to help—and kicking the can down the road isn't helping them. Again, I was the one always telling my doctors that they had a responsibility to the patient to confront the situation with them.
They just wanted to avoid it, just like you're saying here.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:41 am to RollTide4547
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Being born in 1966 and a kid in the 70's, gotta call Bravo Sierra on this. And I don't care what the "statistics" say.
If you disregard facts because you "just know" something, then nothing anyone says will make a difference.
There's lots of idiots walking around like that these days, so you have plenty of company.
And I don't have any statistics on that. I just know it based on my experience.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:45 am to theballguy
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IdontBelieveYou
Then don’t, I don’t care if you do or not. Also, he actually said, Medicare has requirement parameters that if his patients do not get (their required) vaccines, then he doesn’t get payments. He said if I didn’t get the vaccine by my birthday, he would drop me as a patient because I won’t be cost efficient. If it wasn’t Medicare then it was probably the healthcare conglomerate that he is part of.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:54 am to Norbert
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In a country with high vaccination rates. You’re just hiding behind everybody else and puffing your chest out.
Not at all.
No chest puffing. Just making the best decision for my family. Sure, yeah, in the US when vaccination rates are high. I never denied that or implied otherwise. That's where I live.
I'm supposed to make a decision based on someplace I DON'T live?
And "hiding behind everyone else" is certainly some nonsense, isn't it? That's no more "hiding behind everyone else" than making any other decision that I could make that benefits me because of other people's tendencies.
For example, I started my own business instead of working for someone else my whole career. Most people will not do that. It's too scary for them and there's too much risk, responsibility and work involved (at least until you get it up and going).
Does the fact that I did something that most people won't do, and that I benefitted from the fact that most people want to just clock in and out in a work environment in which someone else worries about all the details, so they were willing to come work for me, was that me "hiding behind everyone else?" I don't think so.
Every parent had the same vaccination decision to make as me, and they could have made a different one.
Or are you a socialist who believes that I have a moral obligation to vaccinate my children for the good of the collective?
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Those numbers are certainly not the case fatality rates for various illnesses matched against the odds of dying from the vaccine.
I have not vetted the chart in the thread and it's been a long time since I have done any research on it (25 years, to be exact), but back then, at least, the preponderance of evidence still led anyone who was objective to the same conclusion. That the risks were not worth the rewards. This includes the information we got from the pediatrician we ended up seeing.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:02 am to GatorOnAnIsland
You sure it wasn't because you were an azzhole and he just got tired of dealing with you?
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:03 am to GatorOnAnIsland
I think they're going to try to get me to take tetanus and im going to refuse. Will be interesting.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:24 am to TDsngumbo
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Guess I’m gonna die!!!!
Probable
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:32 am to OccamsStubble
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Why didn’t you negotiate with your doctor, instead of taking such drastic measures? Why not agree to pay for the vaccine, so that your doctor can still take his receptionist to Maui after dumping his wife, but have him agree to NOT give it to you?
Just what a want for a doctor. Someone willing to commit medical fraud
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:33 am to TDsngumbo
I got repeat staph infections a few years ago....I solved mine by simply staying out of hospitals.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:35 am to Homesick Tiger
I’m strongly in favor of the chicken pox vaccine. If anything, just to avoid shingles.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:35 am to wackatimesthree
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That doctor didn't say anything about money, but we sure as hell were fired as patients because of it.
My oldest daughter is in pediatric residency. She regales us with the propaganda they get from their system. Sometimes she’s aware. Sometimes she’s not. When she goes all in on vaccinating all kids for HPV, I’m pretty sure she’s unaware.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:38 am to GatorOnAnIsland
Sounds like a blessing in disguise.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:40 am to NC_Tigah
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you may have been contracting strep infections. FWIW, the pneumovax conveys exactly ZERO immunity to staphylococcus.
this.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:45 am to LSUGrrrl
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I’m strongly in favor of the chicken pox vaccine. If anything, just to avoid shingles.
I have surprising/unsurprising news.
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Chickenpox vaccination led to a decrease in chickenpox cases. The cumulative incidence of chickenpox had dropped from 1,254 cases per 100,000 person-years pre chickenpox vaccination to 193 cases per 100,000 person-years 10 years after the vaccine implementation.
We observed an increase in the all-ages shingles cumulative incidence at 10 and 25 years post chickenpox vaccination and mixed cumulative incidence change at 50 and 75 years post-vaccination.
LINK
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:48 am to the808bass
Well, that sucks. I’ve been considering the shingles vaccine just because I’ve already had a mild case and am terrified the next time will be much worse. Hesitant to take it though for obvious reasons.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:50 am to LSUGrrrl
Shingles sucks for sure.
If you can mitigate your risk with the vaccine, then consider it. Don’t let people on the internet on either side drive that thought process.
If you can mitigate your risk with the vaccine, then consider it. Don’t let people on the internet on either side drive that thought process.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:51 am to GatorOnAnIsland
quote:No it's not
True story
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