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Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:13 pm to
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Wrong.


That was completely non-responsive to my post.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:14 pm to
You're right. Bringing about unprecedented peace treaties isn't related to his stance on war.

fricking retard.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:15 pm to
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You have been trained to cave. And it's cost us this nation!
-2x Obama Voter
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37116 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:16 pm to
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Nothing wrong with JD Vance. Everything wrong with being too scared to stand up.



Two things.


First of all it’s not him or his beliefs it’s about how his style relates to the campaign as a whole. He’s the VP. His job is to stand there smile and clap.


The undercard shouldn’t be in a position of attracting negative attention of deeming older single female voters cat ladies.


Second.

Call it political correctness or whatever but saying something factually correct doesn’t necessarily mean it’s smart.


If you think I’m wrong how bout you go up to a pregnant woman and tell them they look like they are gaining weight.


If Trump himself wants to go with that strategy it’s one thing.


The VPs one job is to not lose the election.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470897 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:17 pm to
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Bringing about unprecedented peace treaties isn't related to his stance on war.


Again, that is non-responsive to my post completely.

I'll post it again so you can re-read (and hopefully think about it this time)

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We have yet to see him have to make a real decision. We got a taste once and he chose unnecessary intervention (Syria).


Nothing about a peace treaty has anything to do with having to make a real decision, or his decision to bomb Syria b/c he had an emotional reaction to this picture:



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Previously Trump’s administration had indicated that its priorities in Syria were fighting Isis and Islamist terrorism. There was no mention of removing Assad from power: a key, long-unfulfilled demand from the US’s European allies. And then there was Russia, Assad’s chief backer, and a power that from 2015 had tilted the war in the regime’s favour.

A few days earlier Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, said it was necessary to accept “political reality” in Syria. Up to this point Trump had been a longstanding sceptic of US military action. Back in 2013 he tweeted that the president, Barack Obama, should refrain from intervening and “stay away and fix a broken US”. The “rebels”, he added, were “just as bad as the Syrian regime”.

Now, though, Trump was talking about his new “flexibility”. “I will tell you that attack on children yesterday had a big impact on me – big impact,” Trump told reporters in the rose garden. “My attitude toward Syria and Assad has changed very much … You’re now talking about a whole different level.”


This was the only incident to which there was even the possibility of military response, and there was no reason to respond other than emotional reacts....and Trump responded.

That "flexibility" is likely going to come back into play if/when Trump ever has to make a decision on intervention.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
65266 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:18 pm to
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Nothing about a peace treaty has anything to do with having to make a real decision
Holy fricking cope.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19557 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:18 pm to
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Is Trump a conservative?

More of a conservative-leaning populist.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
26687 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:19 pm to
Jdoc is exactly right. Way too much caving in by R's
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470897 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:19 pm to
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Holy fricking cope.

Holy fricking learn how to read.

I even gave you an example since you're clearly ignorant to Trump's first admin.
Posted by UtahGetMeTwo
Member since Jul 2024
264 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:20 pm to
Only ones bitching about JD is a few bitter never Trumpers cause they have nothing left to bitch about.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
65266 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:21 pm to
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I even gave you an example since you're clearly ignorant to Trump's first admin.
I'm not the one saying bringing peace to an area of the world that's been at war more than it hasn't isn't a major decision.

You can do all the mental gymnastics you want. Saying Trumps view on war is unclear is uneducated as hell.

I cite a government website. You cite The Guardian. We are not the same.
This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 2:22 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470897 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:22 pm to
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Saying Trumps view on war is unclear is uneducated as hell.


He's "flexible" like with most things.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139677 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:22 pm to
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Trade: nationalistic.



Euphemism for liberal as shite


Conservative "free trade" is one way trade. Conservative free trade is allowing U.S. based multinational companies to set up shop in countries with cheap labor and no environmental regulations and ship those products back to the U.S. freely. At least Euro zone protects their industry from this kind of "free trade".

Trump trade is reciprocity. You want to trade freely into the U.S. then we get to trade freely into your country. If not we will place reciprocal barriers into our country.

I labeled it nationalistic because Trump wants to protect American interest on balance. (Key word is balance.) Most people have no clue what that means.

Label it liberal, nationalistic or whatever. MAGA really doesn't care about labels. Just want practical solutions.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139677 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:23 pm to
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We have yet to see him have to make a real decision.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25431 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:24 pm to
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Drewbie


You are wasting your time with that clown. He will argue with you until you stop. Then he will start arguing with himself. He is a special kind of fricked in the head.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139677 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:24 pm to
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Hes the ultimate independant.


Independent is an accurate label.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470897 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Conservative "free trade" is one way trade.

By definition, it is not.

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Conservative free trade is allowing U.S. based multinational companies to set up shop in countries with cheap labor and no environmental regulations and ship those products back to the U.S. freely.

And US consumers benefit, and those savings are spent on more productive and advanced areas that make our economy grow and remain advanced.

Win win.

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At least Euro zone protects their industry from this kind of "free trade".

Like I said, liberal as shite.

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If not we will place reciprocal barriers into our country.

Taxation and regulation. Like I said, liberal as shite.

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I labeled it nationalistic because Trump wants to protect American interest on balance. (Key word is balance.) Most people have no clue what that means.

It's leftist economics. They would probably understand what it is if you used terms they're familiar with.

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MAGA really doesn't care about labels.

Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4887 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Is Trump a conservative?


He’s the closest thing America has to it up for election in 2024.
You will never make inroads back to true Conservative until you have people in power to push that route.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25431 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:26 pm to
I guess when he killed that Iranian leader that wasn't a big decision either.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16363 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:27 pm to
What is Vance standing up for exactly?
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