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re: Official: Kari Lake Victory Update Thread
Posted on 11/9/24 at 11:14 pm to Cali 4 LSU
Posted on 11/9/24 at 11:14 pm to Cali 4 LSU
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So you think democrat or independent voters switched to vote for Trump.....why exactly? Could it be his policy? Kari Lake is basically a surrogate for Trump. How would these voters vote for Trump on policy (cause let's be honest, it likely isn't his personality), but then they wouldn't vote for Lake to help push & carry out his policies? This just doesn't make sense.
The vast majority of AZ voters went to the polls knowing a shite ton more about Kamala than they did Gallego. Trump spent less than Kamala, but Kamala was out there, very visible, sounding like an idiot. In fact, she has sounded like a retard for years and all of that has been visible to the average voter. Further, on social media Kamala's retardation become fodder for memes, the subject of popular podcasts, etc. Everyone knows Kamala is retarded.
None of that happened to Gallego. Outside of his district, most Arizonans didn't know frick all about him before this election. I pay attention to politics here and I didn't even realize his ex-wife is the f'n mayor of Phoenix even though she has kept his name. So Gallego and his $55 million spend to portray himself as a moderate was how a lot of Arizonans were introduced to Gallego. They were running happy happy horseshite ads for Gallego before Kari Lake even won the primary - he ran unopposed in the primary.
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Posted on 11/9/24 at 11:18 pm to David_DJS
Gallego received almost a hundred thousand more votes in Arizona than Harris 
Arizona has been counting for 5 days now
13 million democrats who voted in 2020 didn’t show up to keep Hitler from the White House in 2024
Kamala Harris didn’t increase her numbers in a single county across the country from Biden 2020
Arizona is controlled by democrats, who stole control in 2020, right alongside Biden
“This makes sense to me” - SlowFlowPro
Arizona has been counting for 5 days now
13 million democrats who voted in 2020 didn’t show up to keep Hitler from the White House in 2024
Kamala Harris didn’t increase her numbers in a single county across the country from Biden 2020
Arizona is controlled by democrats, who stole control in 2020, right alongside Biden
“This makes sense to me” - SlowFlowPro
This post was edited on 11/9/24 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 11/9/24 at 11:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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But we had Trump on the ballot and he won the state by a large margin. Lake was downballot that super popular Presidential victor and still lost.
THIS!!! This right here is why people are questioning things....as well as having a week long "election day"-->that's shady
Posted on 11/9/24 at 11:25 pm to Cali 4 LSU
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THIS!!! This right here is why people are questioning things....as well as having a week long "election day"-->that's shady
He’s not smart enough to understand that he’s literally making the point for us.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 11:29 pm to BuckyCheese
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Do you like a woman that is belligerent, catty, in your face, basically the definition of a Karen right down to the hair?
I mean, I've heard her handle the press and I've heard her in long form podcasts, as well as understand her main policy positions, and I loved her. And, as a woman, I would probably be more critical than a man would be.
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btw-I don't think Trump is/was a particularly good candidate either. Harris was obviously terrible thankfully.
I could listen to Vance talk policy all night. Trump is like nails on a board to me. And I'm not alone on that.
I agree with these points. Yet Trump still won, and in a landslide so it's very odd that didn't translate to senate races in 2 states taking forever to count votes: AZ & NV.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 11:32 pm to David_DJS
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Arizona is 35% R, 35% Ind/other, 30% D.
Thank you
I wonder how the Indy's lean or is there any metric on that?
Posted on 11/9/24 at 11:37 pm to David_DJS
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I think the calculus is different in the senate race. How many senators get the credit or blame for the economy, the border, etc., like a president does?
Not being ugly but...doesn't this imply the voters are too stupid to realize the president needs congress to help push his policies?
Posted on 11/9/24 at 11:40 pm to John Barron
Not sure why Arizona is hell bent on repeatedly running Lake for office. She’s proven that she can’t win there. I think she’s 0 for 3. Take the hint. She’s only hurt the GOP’s cause in that state (and nationally too quite frankly). The fetish that some of these people have to be in power is quite odd.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 11:41 pm to Circle K Beggar
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I think she’s 0 for 3
Did she run for congress twice?
Posted on 11/9/24 at 11:48 pm to Cali 4 LSU
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I wonder how the Indy's lean or is there any metric on that?
From 1987 to the 2020 -
1. Only one Democrat won the governor's seat
2. In that same period, only two out of 12 races for senate were won by Ds.
Just my read but I think Indies lean Right.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 11:53 pm to Cali 4 LSU
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Not being ugly but...doesn't this imply the voters are too stupid to realize the president needs congress to help push his policies?
First, I try not to ever underestimate the laziness/stupidity of the average American.
That said, my suggestion is more about the level of scrutiny and readily available information.
On election day, everybody knew that Trump wants to shut the border down and that Harris was the failed border czar.
On election day, I don't think everyone in AZ knew that Gallego was an open border advocate during his tenure in the house.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 12:38 am to David_DJS
Appreciate your responses. Although, in relation to history we must take into account that Arizona gave us McCain & Flake sooooo, not really the "right" but more like RINOs. Thank you for your insight though.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 2:17 am to David_DJS
I guess all the Republicans getting their seats stolen in the House are "bad candidates" too.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 2:19 am to RohanGonzales
Is Laura Trump not going to challenge the results?
Posted on 11/10/24 at 6:34 am to LaMigra
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Is Laura Trump not going to challenge the results?
Of course they are challenging the results; that’s ongoing now. The problem is that their Senate candidate has more votes than ours. How do you challenge that?
Posted on 11/10/24 at 6:39 am to RohanGonzales
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I guess all the Republicans getting their seats stolen in the House are "bad candidates" too.
Nope. But this one was. Run a better candidate and you walk into the Senate easily.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:54 am to MemphisGuy
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Nope. But this one was. Run a better candidate and you walk into the Senate easily.
This is exactly the narrative of the whole 'Trump can't win, Ron can" BS. Trump won the popular vote in a successful "to big to rig" manner.
Lake is a Media pro who is all in MAGA and the stupid people in Arizona that voted for Trump and Gallego are just that, stupid. That is why the Founders both feared and loathed Democracy as "mob rule" and implemented the Constitutional Republic to codify basic, human "God-given, inalienable Rights" so that the stupid mob could never undermine them.
Trump should put Lake in a Press Secretary and watch her operate in the same way he did with those almost daily 'Helicopter Pressers' and destroy the best that the Left could hit him with every single time.
The political 'troops' are moving into position for the January swearing in of Trump, with pure chaos to rule the Congress as the MSM and Dem 'Street' lines up to counter Trump's Deportation agenda. A lot of Congressional RINOs up there and in the Military/Intel communities as well, will not be able to hide under their 'Due Process' desk this time, as the 'what is good for the goose is for the gander' axiom applies. The Muh Russia lies won't cut it. Albeit, Trump will virtually have to assume some form of soft 'Dictatorial' power in the same manner that Biden did in opening the Border and turning the DOJ on Conservative American Patriots (MAGA). After the popular vote mandate, it's gloves off this time.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 10:36 am to Cali 4 LSU
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Appreciate your responses. Although, in relation to history we must take into account that Arizona gave us McCain & Flake sooooo, not really the "right" but more like RINOs. Thank you for your insight though.
McCain was a Democrat by the end of his career, and I mean that electorally in AZ. He was upside down with Rs and right side up with Ds. The AZ Rep party censured him for his shitty voting, and that was before he cast the deciding vote on repealing Obamacare. They even censured his wife after he died for comments she made about Trump.
Flake was bad. He served one term and then retired because he knew he wouldn't win reelection.
I don't think there's a state that hasn't had/doesn't have its RINOs. I think if you look at AZ in its entirety, you'd see as I do - a red state. Not ruby red like Florida is now, but then again we are only six years removed from that state coming 35K votes from electing a crack-using gay liberal wacko governor instead of DeSantis.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 10:38 am to RohanGonzales
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I guess all the Republicans getting their seats stolen in the House are "bad candidates" too.
I don't know anything about them or their race. I know a lot about Arizona and Kari Lake, and she's now lost two exceedingly winnable elections.
Why does winning not matter to you?
Posted on 11/10/24 at 10:48 am to RCDfan1950
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This is exactly the narrative of the whole 'Trump can't win, Ron can" BS. Trump won the popular vote in a successful "to big to rig" manner.
If you're talking about this board, there were only a few that championed that narrative.
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Lake is a Media pro who is all in MAGA and the stupid people in Arizona that voted for Trump and Gallego are just that, stupid. That is why the Founders both feared and loathed Democracy as "mob rule" and implemented the Constitutional Republic to codify basic, human "God-given, inalienable Rights" so that the stupid mob could never undermine them.
Yes, KL is a media pro but - you know those posts on social media where you can tell it's fake and the poster is trying to manufacture something that'll go viral? - that's Kari Lake the politician. She does cartwheels and somersaults to get that 15 seconds that'll go viral, and for those that see her at volume it comes across as fake.
"all in MAGA" - she was an Obama girl. She was anti-MAGA not that long ago. And while that's not a dealbreaker, loads of people have a come to Jesus moment, it does make voters skeptical and prone to scrutinize. That's why her stunt about being bribed to not run for the senate was a big mistake. She may be genuinely MAGA AF but that stunt signaled something different.
Kari Lake should have won her race in '22 and this one. Not because she's a great conservative politician - she's largely a big question mark - but because her opponents were so f'n awful she should have won comfortably, as you put it - to big to rig.
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