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re: Oh boy, 2016 FBI Crime Statistics Have Been Released

Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:40 am to
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:40 am to
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Stop committing crimes and the cycle is interrupted.



Or maybe nurture a society that values taking care of citizens instead of locking them away. For example, how many of these people are locked up for drug related crimes? Do we really need those laws? Real talk
Posted by PuddinPopPharmacist
Member since May 2017
790 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:44 am to
I'm sure those deadbeat dad's are chomping at the bit to go home and be strong and present fathers to their children if it just wasn't for those pesky laws stopping them. And I'm sure no one would break laws if they were just petted and coddled enough.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61123 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:44 am to
Are the Honkeys even trying?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
67132 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:48 am to
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Poverty begets poverty and theyve been beaten down throughout most of United States history. So I know you think you're being cute but the reality is you're ignoring a serious glaring problem that is our history.


You do realize, with that mentality, that you’re part of the problem, right? The victim mentality is much more damaging to the AA community than your imaginary “AA’s have been beat down...” nonsense.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14524 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:49 am to
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Now imagine those rates if they cut off welfare benefits.


No, imagine those rates if these people actually had to work for a living. The Nanny State/Democrat plantations is exactly what has led to the devastation of the family structure of welfare families.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41106 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:49 am to
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For example, how many of these people are locked up for drug related crimes? Do we really need those laws? Real talk


From 2011-2012 only 28 people out of 67,600 offenders were incarcerated on drug possession charges alone in federal criminal cases.

Only 3% of state inmates have drug possession as their most serious offense.

It's a myth people are getting locked up over weed
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 10:50 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
67132 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:51 am to
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It's a myth people are getting locked up over weed


It’s easier to use drugs as an excuse than admitting that certain subsections of the population need radical change.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86781 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:54 am to
Stuff like this sheds light on why most white people shrug off isolated police brutality cases or white on black racism.

Because media sells Black America as perpetually victimized, but the crime in most of our neighborhoods totally belies that argument.

I do feel for and support black Americans whose lives are made more difficult by the criminality of some who share their race and the reaction of everyone else to those criminals (sometimes justified, sometimes not).
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5664 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:58 am to
i take a different approach to issues like this.

First fix the immediate problem. Treat criminals like criminals. Let people call you names, but get the trash off of the streets. Put them in tents if that is the only way to house them. Stop and frisk, I don't care. Ask any street cop, and they know who and where the trouble comes from. Well grab them.

Deal with the WHY second. The why takes years to implement. I personally don't care about the why. If little luther can't hang out with the wrong crowd all night, well he may be more apt to go to school the next day. if people were not afraid little luther would rob him blind, you may see some more after school "work study" programs by private individuals.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20078 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:58 am to
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It's already known that people who don't have both a father and a mother and their household are more likely to commit crimes. Well if such a high percentage of black males are incarcerated then they're going to have children who are raised without a father. Just continues the cycle


So it begs the question of why the hell that is a the fault of society as a whole? I mean do you want everyone to look the other way when crimes are committed? Hate to tell you but all that will do is lead to more crime. Sorry but the only way I see this changing is stop blaming others for an issue created by enabling people be the way they are. So to sum it up, stop throwing out smoke and mirror BS excuses and look at their own community and call them out. Stop with the crime. Stop having multiple babies with multiple partners and invest back into that community.
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:59 am to
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Now imagine those rates if they cut off welfare benefits. Now do you understand why rich white people continue to vote for the nanny state?


WRONG. As my grandfather often said, "An idle mind is the Devil's playground."

Put them to work. Give them responsibilities. Let them earn some pride. The rest will take care of itself. There is dignity in work.

And if you don't see how the black unemployment rate is affected by 11M illegals, then you can only be a SJW.
Posted by bobby_3_sticks
Member since Oct 2017
245 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:02 am to
where did those images come from? Not the FBI site. The FBI site doesn't seem to have that data in that form. Someone did some calculations off of that. Looks like twitter.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62540 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:02 am to
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So how is the problem really solved?



Like all problems, it must be acknowledged. Many don't want to acknowledge it.

Then the root causes need to be identified. This is done already. But, many people are afraid to address it.

Then you have to fix it. This is tricky. #1, you have to have buy in from those that need to fix it. Those people have been brainwashed to reject what it would take to fix. Secondarily, you have the same group who won't admit the problem/cause continuing to want to brainwash. Finally, any solution is going to have slow results given that the cause is cultural in nature.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20078 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:02 am to
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Or maybe nurture a society that values taking care of citizens instead of locking them away. For example, how many of these people are locked up for drug related crimes? Do we really need those laws? Real talk


Who lead the charge to put those laws on the books? I think if you research it you will be shocked that it was actually championed by black politicians. I admit that simple marijuana possession should not lead to incarceration. However, multiple serious infractions should because it is clear someone won’t change their behavior. Additionally, hardcore drugs such as crack and meth deserve strict sentences due to how destructive adicts are.
Posted by bobby_3_sticks
Member since Oct 2017
245 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:03 am to
this stuff is from infowars. It might be correct, or it might be bunk. I am not going to bother to find out, as yall won't believe me.
Posted by PuddinPopPharmacist
Member since May 2017
790 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:03 am to
There has been many racial minorities that immigrated to America and rose up from poverty and negative racial stereotypes. Do you think Americans had an unbiased, non-racists view of the Vietnamese? Yet somehow they never committed crimes at the same rate. They manage to carve themselves a niche and become productive members of society. Irish are a similar case. They brought crime, drunkenness, fights, and general disorder but rose up.

In the black community, even centuries later, individuals rise up all the time, but families mostly do not and communities never do.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
67132 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:04 am to
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Put them to work. Give them responsibilities. Let them earn some pride. The rest will take care of itself. There is dignity in work.


The problem with our country is how deeply engrained the social programs are within certain communities, and how anyone taking them on from a legislative standpoint would be committing career suicide.

People feel entitled to government support, even if they didn’t pay any money into it. It’s a shame.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86781 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:04 am to
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And if you don't see how the black unemployment rate is affected by 11M illegals, then you can only be a SJW.



I'm with you on the dignity of work.

But it's just not that simple is it? American businesses have one pool of workers ready and eager to do menial work for relatively low pay, and do it reasonably well. Then another pool with varying interest in work, with a perceived lower eagerness to work and far higher demands for the work willing to be done.

Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:07 am to
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this stuff is from infowars. It might be correct, or it might be bunk. I am not going to bother to find out, as yall won't believe me.


Just watch your local news, the graph will be proven true everyday
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62540 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:09 am to
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The numbers are what they are, but this board is a regular cracker jamboree.yeehaw.



This is an example of what I'm talking about. Even in this anonymous arena, you have someone who chooses to focus on the response to the numbers rather than the cause.

The thought that someone like VOR would be interested in working to solve this problem is naive. He's much more interested in using the reality as a way of disparaging those that find the reality objectionable. These are the people who have worked to put the black population in the state that it is in. They still want that and will fight fixing it at every turn. These are the true racists.
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