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Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:33 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
Yep, and you're a pathetic excuse for an Aggie.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:35 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
Not exactly. But for reasons I don’t really want to type out.
If the car accelerates through the collision, then yes, acceleration is important, but not for determining F in F=ma, and the overall principles don’t change.
If the car accelerates through the impact, the man experiences more force than if the car were at constant speed.
The SUV’s mass is no longer effectively infinite in the sense that the contact velocity is changing, and that directly affects dV(man)
The physics principle is unchanged: force depends on the relative change in velocity during the collision, but now the car is contributing extra velocity during the collision.
If the car accelerates through the collision, then yes, acceleration is important, but not for determining F in F=ma, and the overall principles don’t change.
If the car accelerates through the impact, the man experiences more force than if the car were at constant speed.
The SUV’s mass is no longer effectively infinite in the sense that the contact velocity is changing, and that directly affects dV(man)
The physics principle is unchanged: force depends on the relative change in velocity during the collision, but now the car is contributing extra velocity during the collision.
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:36 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
What the frick is this shite?
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:36 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
I think you are both looking at this backwards and asking the wrong question.
The wrong question:
- What you really need is the kinetic energy imparted upon the officer from an impact. Energy is Work, and work means moving something. Force, or acceleration applied to a mass, is an element of work (E=.5 X m X V^2). From force you can get acceleration and that acceleration over time gives you velocity which leads you to energy.
But of course no one talks in terms of energy or work. It just doesn't work for casual conversation. So we are back to Force (which is the question you asked).
Backwards:
- you are looking for the acceleration CAUSED by the force of impact, not the acceleration of the vehicle. F=ma. If she wasn't accelerating the force is zero mathematically. But force requires two to tango. Force must be exerted on something. So using newton's laws 1-3 (all 3 are at play here), the acceleration CAUSED (the officer accelerating from rest to ?) would give you the Force that was applied to him.
The wrong question:
- What you really need is the kinetic energy imparted upon the officer from an impact. Energy is Work, and work means moving something. Force, or acceleration applied to a mass, is an element of work (E=.5 X m X V^2). From force you can get acceleration and that acceleration over time gives you velocity which leads you to energy.
But of course no one talks in terms of energy or work. It just doesn't work for casual conversation. So we are back to Force (which is the question you asked).
Backwards:
- you are looking for the acceleration CAUSED by the force of impact, not the acceleration of the vehicle. F=ma. If she wasn't accelerating the force is zero mathematically. But force requires two to tango. Force must be exerted on something. So using newton's laws 1-3 (all 3 are at play here), the acceleration CAUSED (the officer accelerating from rest to ?) would give you the Force that was applied to him.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:40 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
Well, F=MxA. So for a car at constant velocity (0 acceleration) the force would = the mass. Multiply by distance and that gives you work.
Either fricking way, a car hitting a person is a big fricking deal
Either fricking way, a car hitting a person is a big fricking deal
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:41 pm to elprez00
Not for relentless alter it doesn't!
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:43 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
My fist traveling as fast and hard as i can swing at your nose but only reaching 4mph before it hits will break your nose.
My fist moving at 6mph and hitting you at 6mph will jusr make you say " ow i sniff assholes with that thing, dont hurt it"
See bruce Lee's 1 inch punch.
My fist moving at 6mph and hitting you at 6mph will jusr make you say " ow i sniff assholes with that thing, dont hurt it"
See bruce Lee's 1 inch punch.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:43 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:So, after being provided with the answer, which you ignored, you continue to bitch at folks?
Well, aren't you a combative little fellow?
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:44 pm to NC_Tigah
Well he is a disenguous tool so...
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:47 pm to AllbyMyRelf
quote:Far more elegant than my OP-targeted explanation.
If the car accelerates through the collision, then yes, acceleration is important, but not for determining F in F=ma, and the overall principles don’t change.
If the car accelerates through the impact, the man experiences more force than if the car were at constant speed.
The SUV’s mass is no longer effectively infinite in the sense that the contact velocity is changing, and that directly affects dV(man)
The physics principle is unchanged: force depends on the relative change in velocity during the collision, but now the car is contributing extra velocity during the collision.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:49 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
I think you are trying to get the board to go along with your contention that a her car only weighs 2000 lbs and was only traveling 2 mph. I assume you’ll eventually inform the board that this amounts to a love tap according to physics.
The reality is that a Honda pilot has a curb weight of 4000-4600 lbs and creeps without any acceleration at about 10mph (0-60 in 6 when accelerating), therefore she was almost certainly going much faster than 2. Even if she weren’t, impact isn’t the only factor in an incident like this. She could have rolled over him and killed him, which I assume was the idea.
She’s frying in hell for trying to kill a federal agent. DWI
The reality is that a Honda pilot has a curb weight of 4000-4600 lbs and creeps without any acceleration at about 10mph (0-60 in 6 when accelerating), therefore she was almost certainly going much faster than 2. Even if she weren’t, impact isn’t the only factor in an incident like this. She could have rolled over him and killed him, which I assume was the idea.
She’s frying in hell for trying to kill a federal agent. DWI
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:50 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
Remember when you faked being a lawyer on here?
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:51 pm to Vacherie Saint
Satan says FAFO!
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:52 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:
I think you are trying to get the board to go along with your contention that a her car only weighs 2000 lbs and was only traveling 2 mph. I assume you’ll eventually inform the board that this amounts to a love tap according to physics.
Hank goof playing biomechanical engineer.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:53 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Of all of the bizarre liberals that have been on here, he may take the cake.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:54 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
The danger isnt just the force impact , she could have run him over. So while you're calculating the psi of 2,000 pounds of metal rolling over a body know that justifiable homicide isnt a math equation.
Did this person have a reasonable fear of serious bodily harm or death? Yes, punching the acceleration of an SUV and launching it at law enforcement will get you killed. No physics degree necessary.
Did this person have a reasonable fear of serious bodily harm or death? Yes, punching the acceleration of an SUV and launching it at law enforcement will get you killed. No physics degree necessary.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:55 pm to TBoy
quote:
TBoy
Keep fighting the good fight
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:57 pm to TBoy
quote:Doesn’t the very real potential for being run over after a fall or leg getting a bit stuck up under a fender or something render the speed of the vehicle irrelevant?
There's also the fact that, assuming the agent was hit at all, it was not a direct blow, but was a glancing contact. So the movement is not full forward movement because no one claims he was hit by the front of the car. That changes the velocity in relation to any impact.
The man was on ice after all.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:57 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:Do you understand the English language? I never "contended" either of those things. I just used those figures in a hypothetical question. The question could just as easily have used 10,000 pounds and 40mph.
I think you are trying to get the board to go along with your contention that a her car only weighs 2000 lbs and was only traveling 2 mph
FFS, you are a strange duck.
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