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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:33 am to
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:33 am to
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with the inhuman treatment of immigrants in the United States,
Posted by alphaandomega
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:34 am to
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but I’m in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants in the United States


I agree.

That is why we need to remove these immigrants and return them to their beloved countries of origin.

Hey Mr. Pope, How many of these immigrants can we send to live inside the walls of Vatican City? We can have the flight leaving within an hour.
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:36 am to
The Pope in all his wisdom cannot draw a line between innocent babies and a murderer?
Posted by Furious
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:37 am to
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I'm not a biblical scholar.
, but pretty sure the Bible allows for the death penalty.


Well, you are right on your first point.

The New Testament changed everything. Jesus directly addressed this in the story of the woman he saved from a stoning.

Now, and question should ask themself a simple question. Would Jesus flip the switch on someone strapped into and electrical chair? And real Christian knows that answer.
Posted by The Torch
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:39 am to
Leo also encourages immigration while living behind walls himself.
Posted by AlextheBodacious
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:40 am to
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So you agree that we are treating immigrants in an "inhumane" manner? Enforcement of our immigration laws is somehow cruel?

I didn’t hear him say that. That’s just like, your opinion man.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:40 am to
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Maybe he should actually read the Bible.


I'm sure he has but in his eyes he's the only one qualified to tell you what it all means.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:42 am to
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Now, and question should ask themself a simple question. Would Jesus flip the switch on someone strapped into and electrical chair? And real Christian knows that answer.
Jesus will return in judgement of the entire world from all ages, which will include the eternal death penalty of everlasting judgement (Rev. 21:8).

In a sense, when Jesus returns, He will "flip the switch" on a lot of people.
Posted by DaleGribblesMower
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:44 am to
Inhumane treatment? Of arresting criminals and getting them the frick out of here? A host can only take on so many parasites
Posted by TankBoys32
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:48 am to
I wonder though, if Jesus saved her from stoning not because she didn't deserve punishment, but because they wanted to execute her without trial.
Posted by bobaftt1212
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:51 am to
remind me how vatican city handles illegals...
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:52 am to
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I wonder though, if Jesus saved her from stoning not because she didn't deserve punishment, but because they wanted to execute her without trial.
I think it was actually that the mosaic law wasn't being upheld.

In Leviticus 20:10, it says "If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death"

In John 8, it says that the woman was caught in the act of adultery, and yet only the woman was brought to Jesus. The law demanded both the guilty parties to be put to death, and since all those involved in trying to trap Jesus were in violation of the law to condemn the woman alone, they would have been guilty of violating the law, themselves.

There's more to it than that, but in essence Jesus wasn't abolishing the death penalty but calling out hypocrisy.
This post was edited on 10/3/25 at 11:56 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:57 am to
I have no issue with the Pope being anti death penalty. Doesn’t mean I have to be though.

The immigrant thing? Yeah not so much.
Posted by Westbank111
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:59 am to
Anyone putting any additional respect or honor to some sicko in a white robe needs their beads examined.

On an other note, my main issue with death vs. non-death penalty is the fact that we have to pay for it and it’s a known racket, the jail systems.

How about hard labor camps for the extreme cases, I’m talking building homeless resorts in the middle of Arizona, manufacturing facilities.

Talk about replace China’s CHEAP LABOR that we cannot
Compete with. See El Salvador as an example.

Well, “oh yeah, how about free labor”, as it will cost nothing more to us.

And for the cost of tax money to house and feed them, American tax payers get to buy whatever products we are pumping out for “materials costs only”, then of course, we are selling products abroad.

This is a simple concept. Get some money out of these assholes. Anyone spending longer than 4-5-6 months gets shipped to manufacturing camps.

Or you have life, you get shopped to Gov’t housing programs in the desserts to house the homeless.

Or we reduce the expenses for “parks and recreations” & have these pricks pressure washing the streets, Gov’t buildings, painting public areas, making it shine:

Instead, they have guaranteed meals and whatever else that many taxpayers struggle with.

Used these bastards
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 12:02 pm to
I think John 8 1-11 states it pretty clearly. The penalty recognized for adultery at the time was stoning. Christ said to members of the mob " He who is without sin. Cast the first stone."

Christ saw what he was teaching as a matter of personal ethics. Early Christians saw it as an admonishment against the taking of life in any circumstance. They saw murder as murder irrespective of who claimed agency be it the individual or the authorities.

In the case of the adulteress old Jewish law embodied in the state would have no problem with the public execution of the adulteress seeing it as a quasi state function. Christ is challenging even that small subset of society operating under the indirect aegis about taking a life.

Paul on the other hand was admonished Christians to be careful because the Romans ( state) had a wide control of the use of violence. Not for nothing, paraphrasing Paul. I don't see Paul as endorsing the death penalty, but recognizing that the state can claim that right because of its recognized legitimacy. But the early Christians as a whole rejected it. God could mete out vengeance, but man was in a poor position to do so because of his sinful nature.

The Brothers at school posited these question to us, Are you without sin? Are members of society without sin? If the government made up of and created by society live in sin, then from God's point do they have true legitimacy in the matter from God's / Christ"s point of view?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 12:07 pm to

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I think John 8 1-11 states it pretty clearly. The penalty recognized for adultery at the time was stoning. Christ said to members of the mob " He who is without sin. Cast the first stone."


I believe those were church penalties.

Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 12:11 pm to
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inhuman treatment of immigrants


so basically every country in the world deports non citizens but when the US does it, it's "inhumane"?

get the frick out of here
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 12:13 pm to
Is that what you gained from reading the New Testament? That the Death Penalty was necessary and part of The Way going forward?


Novel approach, so fricked up that it blows past heresy and blasphemy at the same time.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 12:18 pm to
I'm anti-abortion. No need to conflate the issue by comparing unborn babies with illegal aliens or murderers.

The Pope is a pawn of leftists that have taken over the leadership of the Catholic Church. The Cardinals picked someone they knew would bend the knee to the globalists.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 12:19 pm to
Oh, no that was a societal penalty in Judea, and Samaria and Galilee at the time. Actions taken on society under the guise of Religious law was the same as anything considered secular. The Jews at the time as a whole saw no difference....and the Romans could not care less.
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