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re: Property taxes - theft
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:59 am to jclem11
Posted on 11/27/25 at 10:59 am to jclem11
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Most services are not subject to sales taxes. lmao.
You are showing your arse in this thread, baw.
What does that have to do with what a consumption tax is?
And what services are tax free in your town/city?
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:06 am to 3down10
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What does that have to do with what a consumption tax is?
You do realize that sales taxes are consumption taxes, correct?
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And what services are tax free in your town/city?
Most professional services (e.g., legal, accounting) are exempt from sales taxes.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:20 am to jclem11
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You do realize that sales taxes are consumption taxes, correct?
Yeah but that's not what was being discussed. What was being discussed were taxes directly related to services such as gas taxes paying for roads. Where the people who use the roads pay the most tax and people who don't never pay the tax directly.
We're talking about good taxes vs bad ones.
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Most professional services (e.g., legal, accounting) are exempt from sales taxes.
Because they don't have a transfer of goods and are thus taxed in other ways. But if they have to buy goods as part of the service, then that is included in their costs and passed on to the consumer.
Would you also say Europe doesn't have a sales tax because it's already included in the price rather it being calculated separately as it is done int he US? Because technically, sales taxes are paid by businesses, not consumers.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:20 am to Faurot fodder
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So you don't think there's waste?
im sure there's waste everywhere, including where you work. i'll bet there's waste in your house. people are inherently imperfect. i know that myself and my four other fellow board members work our asses off to eliminate it, and hold other elected officials (that we control their budgets) accountable for every dollar they spend and question every dollar they spend. we haven't raised the millage rate in our county in 15 years. we tighten our belt, and our revenue has increased slightly to help us keep up with inflation by property value increases. every four years, the state dept of revenue re-assesses properties to bring them up or down to current market values. that increase can make your property taxes increase. during covid, housing values skyrocketed with people using PPP loans, covid checks, and other increased money supply to buy houses they couldn't really afford, and that drove up property values, which in turn drives up property taxes when those properties are re-assessed by the state. the simple fact is...the services you enjoy as a citizen aren't free. they cost money to provide
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:25 am to 3down10
Baw you literally said “services being consumed”. Lmao.
Don’t get all arse mad when I pointed out you are wrong.
Don’t get all arse mad when I pointed out you are wrong.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:25 am to 3down10
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gas taxes paying for roads.
your gasoline would cost four times the current cost per gallon for it to provide enough revenue to maintain roads and bridges to state standards that they make you maintain them to (yes, they're inspected and they'll withhold your state aid money if you don't maintain them to their standards)
so, you'd be paying about $8 / gallon for it to generate enough revenue to rely solely on that to maintain the roads and bridges.
you seem like a smooth brain
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:28 am to jclem11
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Baw you literally said “services being consumed”. Lmao.
Don’t get all arse mad when I pointed out you are wrong.
Again, I was talking about gas taxes specifically and the service you are consuming is having roads to drive on.
But whatever, you're just trying to avoid the point of the discussion.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:29 am to 3down10
Yea. You are a frickin retard who thinks the rules don’t apply to them and should not pay any taxes.
Go live in the forest and stop consuming the public resources do you are being “stolen from”.
Put your money where your mouth is and frickin leave.
Go live in the forest and stop consuming the public resources do you are being “stolen from”.
Put your money where your mouth is and frickin leave.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:29 am to FriedEggBowL
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your gasoline would cost four times the current cost per gallon for it to provide enough revenue to maintain roads and bridges to state standards that they make you maintain them to (yes, they're inspected and they'll withhold your state aid money if you don't maintain them to their standards)
so, you'd be paying about $8 / gallon for it to generate enough revenue to rely solely on that to maintain the roads and bridges.
you seem like a smooth brain
Then you should pay four times the current cost per gallon.
Are you telling me the roads get done for cheaper if they are paid for in other ways?
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:33 am to jclem11
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Yea. You are a frickin retard who thinks the rules don’t apply to them and should not pay any taxes.
Go live in the forest and stop consuming the public resources do you are being “stolen from”.
Put your money where your mouth is and frickin leave.
If the services you claim to provide are so great and worth the money, you wouldn't need to steal from people to pay for them. People would gladly donate to the causes.
I think I'll stay right where the frick I am and tell you to take your taxes and shove them up your arse. Somehow my state is able to operate without taxing the shite out of everyone. Why don't you take your arse to a state like Massachusetts. They must have great public services.
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 11:34 am
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:37 am to 3down10
You are the one bitching and complaining about taxes, not me. Lmao.
Again — you think the rules don’t apply to you and want nice shite without paying for it.
You are the worst kind of retard.
Again — you think the rules don’t apply to you and want nice shite without paying for it.
You are the worst kind of retard.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:39 am to jclem11
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You are the one bitching and complaining about taxes, not me. Lmao.
Again — you think the rules don’t apply to you and want nice shite without paying for it.
You are the worst kind of retard.
No, you're the one who wants nice things without paying for them, that's why you steal from your neighbors.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:43 am to VOR
In Texas, would prohibit the State's Rainy Day fund to exceed $10 billion dollars, with the surplus being returned to municipalities on a proportional basis, earmarked for property tax relief, only. Cost shifting - as entities tend to do - will be prohibited and failure to adhere disqualifies for the next round of relief
Some properties are more desirable than others - tax the property itself and not what is on that property. Values of homes are being taxed, not the landmass, and we know the cost of homes are over-inflated.
A consumption tax on items deemed non-essential. If some services are deemed essential there must be a method to factor/cost them. Determine that and tax accordingly.
Would prohibit rate increases to exceed those established for Social Security recipients.
Some properties are more desirable than others - tax the property itself and not what is on that property. Values of homes are being taxed, not the landmass, and we know the cost of homes are over-inflated.
A consumption tax on items deemed non-essential. If some services are deemed essential there must be a method to factor/cost them. Determine that and tax accordingly.
Would prohibit rate increases to exceed those established for Social Security recipients.
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 11:46 am
Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:40 pm to jclem11
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The poor consume the most as a percentage of their income.
No shite, Sherlock. If the OP was talking about that I would have mentioned it. But I was replying to a post that was talking about total consumption.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:27 pm to LSUFootballLover
If you think you own your property, don’t pay property taxes
Posted on 11/27/25 at 5:36 pm to LSUFootballLover
Certainly, only those who own property should be allowed to vote on property tax measures.
Allowing those who do not own property to vote on potential property tax assessments or renewals is no different than allowing an Alabama resident to vote in Georgia elections.
Allowing those who do not own property to vote on potential property tax assessments or renewals is no different than allowing an Alabama resident to vote in Georgia elections.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 6:26 pm to Tantal
quote:As do I. But I agree with you. The agencies you mentioned are necessary. Were they not, then it would be robbery as someone mentioned. However, just because I have a bigger house than even a neighbor and my assessment requires I pay more for the same services you mention above yet I enjoy the same police, fire, parks, streets and schools (how about mine are all out of school), then the system is not fair. Not sure how you fix it but sure don't want tax assessors snooping around your property. They will increase your assessed value just to piss you off.
I hate my property taxes too, but Police Departments, Fire Departments, school districts, parks, and Street Departments aren't free.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 7:06 pm to Diamondawg
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Not sure how you fix it but sure don't want tax assessors snooping around your property
It's a state law that properties be re-assessed every four years to bring properties to market value, which could be higher. Could be lower. It's all dependent on how hot your area is for development. A good rule of thumb is to ask how much you have your house insured for. People will have their house insured for $400,000 and want it assessed as valuing at $200,000.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 7:11 pm to moneyg
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Show your math.
$350 Electric
$200 Water, sewage, trash
$90 Auto insurance
$60 Cell phone
$90 Internet
$600 Groceries, toiletries, etc.
Total: $1,390/month
$1,390×.5 (my stated hypothetical 50% tax rate)×12 (months)=$8,340.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 7:44 pm to wfallstiger
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Values of homes are being taxed, not the landmass, and we know the cost of homes are over-inflated.
This
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