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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:42 pm to SallysHuman
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literally says to not give up meeting together
I agree, and didn’t mean to diminish that at all. Just meant not a requirement for life everlasting.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:45 pm to ValZacs
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I agree, and didn’t mean to diminish that at all. Just meant not a requirement for life everlasting.
I think that if one is seeking or earned Life Everlasting... that following the Bible would be a natural response to that.
i.e., following the Bible won't earn your salvation, but salvation leads to following the Bible.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:46 pm to Old Money
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The rapture is Protestant fear mongering.
This doesn’t make sense. The rapture is said to be an escape from tribulation. Paul said to use it as comfort. The exact opposite of what you said.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:47 pm to BCreed1
You keep reposting what you have carefully prepared beforehand. You had your content ready before you started this. Any you cut and paste with precision.
Your repeated declarations preceded by “sir” do not make you correct.
I’m glad many will look into Church history. John Henry Newman and all.
Cheers, “sir”.
Your repeated declarations preceded by “sir” do not make you correct.
I’m glad many will look into Church history. John Henry Newman and all.
Cheers, “sir”.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:48 pm to BCreed1
WTF? I have nothing more to say.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:48 pm to TexasForever81
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The rapture is said to be an escape from tribulation. Paul said to use it as comfort.
I mean, Christianity was a religion for the poor and downtrodden specifically because life was tribulation for them. That's why it sold so well to the lower classes.
The comfort was that when we died, we went to Heaven.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's why it sold so well to the lower classes.
So are you saying Christianity was/is just a marketing scheme and the rapture is another?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:55 pm to Tigerinasia
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You keep reposting what you have carefully prepared beforehand. You had your content ready before you started this. Any you cut and paste with precision.
LOL! OK..
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Your repeated declarations preceded by “sir” do not make you correct.
Correct. What does make me correct on it it are the very words spoken via the early church fathers and the very words in the scripture and Latin dictionary.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I mean, Christianity was a religion for the poor and downtrodden specifically because life was tribulation for them. That's why it sold so well to the lower classes.
You're mistaking causation and correlation.
It wasn't so much "for the poor" as it was the wealthy were often too attached to their worldly holdings to become true followers of Christ... but even then, there were more than just "the poor" that followed.
Actually, even that concept is mentioned in scripture.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:00 pm to ValZacs
No I just think how we perceive Christianity and why it works in modern society of rich people is a lot different than how people in 2AD Rome and Judea perceived Christianity and to whom it appealed to.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yep, makes sense.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I mean, Christianity was a religion for the poor and downtrodden specifically because life was tribulation for them. That's why it sold so well to the lower classes. The comfort was that when we died, we went to Heaven.
Some of the churches in Revelation were very wealthy. Laodicea being the best example.
He (Paul) said then we who are alive and remain. Not about being dead going to heaven
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:07 pm to Old Money
The rapture is not biblical, therefore not Protestant, no more than selling indulgences was a Cath thing.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:23 pm to TexasForever81
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So John wrote about future events that had already happened?
Please watch this from 6:00 just for five minutes. I agree with his explanation. I spent 15 minutes finding this video and picking the exact right spot for you.
What he says from 9 minutes until 12 minutes is 100% what many of us who were raised Evangelical are coming around to.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:27 pm to BCreed1
Personally, I would rather be left behind. If you are a shining example of who will be "saved" im good.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:27 pm to BCreed1
I just finished up last week preaching a series on Revelation. A lot of what needed to be in place is currently in place. The Lord could return at anytime.
But, we do not need to sit idly by and watch the clouds. We need to be bust carrying out the Great Commission and being His witnesses in our families and communities. The field is ripe and we need to go harvest for the Lord!
But, we do not need to sit idly by and watch the clouds. We need to be bust carrying out the Great Commission and being His witnesses in our families and communities. The field is ripe and we need to go harvest for the Lord!
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:29 pm to PastorJ
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A lot of what needed to be in place is currently in place.
Like what?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:30 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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the rapture is not biblical
If it is not Biblical then why did Paul write to the Thessalonians to reassure then that it hasn't happened yet and they did not miss it? A catching of the saints with the Lord is absolutely in the Bible.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:33 pm to SirWinston
Winston- this video is wild! I’m about 12m in and definitely intrigued.
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