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re: Remember the Fake Security Guard that Murdered the Guy in Denver?
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:31 am to ReauxlTide222
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:31 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:He worked security, but wasn't "licensed". He had training reportedly.
Wasn’t he a completely fake security guard?
quote:Probably shouldn't have gone to trial.
What were your thoughts on Kyle Rittenhouse?
One question back at you: How do you feel knowing that the "victim" in this thread was trying to start fights with everyone while carrying a concealed gun, knives, and bear spray? If anyone responded to his assault with fists and started beating his arse, do you doubt he would have gone for his gun in "self defense?"
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Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:32 am to Milesahead
The guy who had the mace also had a gun. Are you saying he should have shot the guy pretending to be a security guard?
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:32 am to mmcgrath
Gtfo
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:34 am to the808bass
quote:How was he "targeted" when the guy he assaulted was defending a reporter who was simply recording with a cell phone? He went full rage mode and started assaulting people who didn't even have a side in the protest. All while packing a gun himself.
You’re justifying the murder of a citizen who was at a protest.
Furthermore, I believe he was targeted for murder just as the guy in Portland was targeted.
If he doesn't go full ahole mode and assaults random people he never gets shot.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:37 am to mmcgrath
quote:
One question back at you: How do you feel knowing that the "victim" in this thread was trying to start fights with everyone while carrying a concealed gun, knives, and bear spray? If anyone responded to his assault with fists and started beating his arse, do you doubt he would have gone for his gun in "self defense?"
Sweet hypothetical that didn't happen
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:38 am to blueboxer1119
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"He maced him"
"Thats why he shot him."
Being maced justifies killing someone. Noted.
He also slapped him across the face. Walked back a few steps and it appears he was raising his mace at the same time fake security dude was reaching for his gun.
Tough case/situation there.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:39 am to the808bass
quote:If the fight started going badly for him I think it is VERY likely he pulls his gun.
The guy who had the mace also had a gun. Are you saying he should have shot the guy pretending to be a security guard?
He was kinduv a pussy for trying to assault someone using a cell phone in the first place. Another guy gets in between them (no punches or anything) then immediately hits him and pulls out the bear spray. He was escalating all the way.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:40 am to mmcgrath
quote:
How was he "targeted" when the guy he assaulted was defending a reporter who was simply recording with a cell phone?
The photographer, news “reporter”, security guard and another protester were tracking him the whole day and working as a team.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:40 am to mmcgrath
quote:
If
There you go again with another "if" to justify this killing
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:41 am to mmcgrath
quote:
He was kinduv a pussy
Imagine you saying that.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:41 am to the808bass
Yet they assemble a grand jury to go after Tina Peters.
We are North Korea.
We are North Korea.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:42 am to the808bass
You illustrate the challenges provided by us carrying guns. If the "security guard" had his gun out, it was stupid to attack him with something of lesser impact.
I am for people placing a high value on life. People should look first to avoid violence. When he approached and the guy produced a gun, he should have backed away. If he truly thought he was going to be shot regardless, THEN he should have tried to use his gun...but I doubt that was the case here.
If I produce a gun and someone attacks me, I would feel justified in using the gun. If I didn't show the gun but was attacked, I would feel like I had to educate them on that fact prior to shooting them. Once they know I am offering death as a solution, the ball is back in their court.
I am for people placing a high value on life. People should look first to avoid violence. When he approached and the guy produced a gun, he should have backed away. If he truly thought he was going to be shot regardless, THEN he should have tried to use his gun...but I doubt that was the case here.
If I produce a gun and someone attacks me, I would feel justified in using the gun. If I didn't show the gun but was attacked, I would feel like I had to educate them on that fact prior to shooting them. Once they know I am offering death as a solution, the ball is back in their court.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:42 am to mmcgrath
quote:This is very illegal isn’t it?
He worked security, but wasn't "licensed". He had training reportedly.
quote:I don’t care that he was carrying those things. I don’t care that he is dead. I don’t know what he would have done because he was shot dead before he had a chance to do any of that. I think fake security guard pulled the trigger too quickly and should be punished.
How do you feel knowing that the "victim" in this thread was trying to start fights with everyone while carrying a concealed gun, knives, and bear spray? If anyone responded to his assault with fists and started beating his arse, do you doubt he would have gone for his gun in "self defense?"
And really it’s just disappointing that it didn’t go to trial. Most of us believe your political leanings dictate these things in our current climate and that’s sickening if true.
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 9:47 am
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:43 am to mmcgrath
quote:
He was escalating all the way.
You’re just making up new ideas as a justification for murder. Can I shoot anyone who’s “escalating?” Can I strap a gun and hang out with my friends “protecting” then and then shoot anyone who approaches them?
If we apply the McGrath “escalating” doctrine evenly, what becomes of BLM?
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:44 am to the808bass
quote:
The photographer, news “reporter”, security guard and another protester were tracking him the whole day and working as a team.
correct
the DA dropped the charges on a “difficult” prosecution and none of this info comes out
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:45 am to Milesahead
quote:
When he approached and the guy produced a gun, he should have backed away.
You clearly know nothing of this case. A fake security guard pulled a gun and shot a guy in a second. Not 5 seconds. Not 20 seconds.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:47 am to Milesahead
quote:
You illustrate the challenges provided by us carrying guns.
Yes. And only one person used their gun. A person playing as a security guard. If Keltner had been pretending to be a security guard and shot the reporter, he would’ve received the death penalty. He might have been sent to Gitmo.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:48 am to BigMob
quote:
If you or your family members are murdered - and are white - there won’t be justice.
You better believe there will be vigilante justice.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:49 am to BigMob
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Stay the frick out of blue urban areas. If you have to use self defense, you’ll go to prison. If you or your family members are murdered - and are white - there won’t be justice.
More importantly, get involved to be sure that your local DA isn’t bought out by the Soros crowd. I don’t know how we can prevent it, but surely it’s possible somehow.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:50 am to the808bass
I am not familiar with this case. What I "understand" from reading this thread is a man attacked a few people, one with a gun, and was subsequently shot. I assume the gun was present when he was maced. If so, I am ok with the gun being used.
If a person attacks a police officer (which I assume to be carrying a gun), I am ok with the police using the gun to end the threat. If I give police this "privilege", I think I must also offer it to our private citizens.
If a person attacks a police officer (which I assume to be carrying a gun), I am ok with the police using the gun to end the threat. If I give police this "privilege", I think I must also offer it to our private citizens.
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