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re: RFK exposing more secrets by Big Pharma…
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:13 pm to Louisianalabguy
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:13 pm to Louisianalabguy
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Wait... so only half of all flu vaccines are for the right virus?
Before you lose respect, please learn how to read.
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Posted on 9/7/25 at 9:20 pm to TigerDoc
There was also a complete rejection of natural immunity that was uncalled for.
Posted on 9/7/25 at 9:42 pm to Free888
I agree. Natural immunity was real and should have been respected more. Where public health dropped the ball was in acting like it was an either/or choice. A better approach for the next pandemic would be to acknowledge both (e.g. “yes, recovery gives protection, but vaccines are the safer and more consistent way to get there”. That way people feel their personal experience is recognized, while still hearing why vaccination matters.
This post was edited on 9/7/25 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:22 pm to TigerDoc
quote:You would think that
he cherrypicks noise
quote:Still missing the point
If the Fulton County study were the smoking gun, almost 25 years later we’d all be living in a very different medical reality
quote:People are looking at multiple things in this situation, not just one thing. But you knew that, didn't you?
The MMR-autism link has been tested so many times that if it were real, it would’ve shown up like a neon sign
quote:If you knew why he brought it up, you would know why it's important that he keep bringing it up
what we’ve got is a story that keeps getting recycled long after the fields have moved on
quote:Is it possible, hear me out, that multiple things are possibly involved, not just one thing?
And look what he actually does when science is published that he disagrees with - he just asked a journal to retract a study that said aluminum adjuvants in vaccines were safe
quote:Again, he's raising questions and some people are trying to stifle those questions
He's a vaccine opponent
quote:Yeah, how dare he question people who have been proven to lie over and over.
not a science advocate
Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:29 pm to TigerDoc
quote:That's a sad emotional appeal but horrifying. Forcing other people to potentially do something against their will, especially health related, is totalitarian and should NEVER, EVER be tolerated.
The main reason for mandates is for people too sick to be able to be vaccinated. Like this kid with leukemia, who was able to go to school like other kids because his classmates were vaccinated
You are scary
Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:31 pm to somethingdifferent
You're a weirdo. We've had mandatory vaccination in this country back to the 19th century.
Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:34 pm to somethingdifferent
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Is it possible, hear me out, that multiple things are possibly involved, not just one thing?
Great. Then emphasis on a multi-factorial etiology should make us look at more robust evidence.
quote:
Yeah, how dare he question people who have been proven to lie over and over.
RFK has a long history of lying too. I’m sure you knew that though.
Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:34 pm to TigerDoc
quote:Asking questions is doing no such thing. We're having discussions now that are so incredibly important. That's the value of RFK. Any truly scientific person should welcome such discourse. All true science will suffer none because of it and no person who knows such truth should shrink from it at all because they should welcome the opportunity to be vindicated yet again.
Even if he doesn't win it, he can drive down public confidence
Have you ever watched Sabine Hossenfelder or Curt Jaimungal or Eric Weinstein? You should.
quote:Excellent. Big Pharma needs to be knocked down a few pegs
make it financially prohibitive to make vaccines
quote:
making it harder to get vaccines for our kids
Stop it.Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:36 pm to somethingdifferent
He's HHS secretary. He's not just asking questions anymore. He has actual responsibility for US public health.
Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:36 pm to TigerDoc
quote:Strawman. I don't know of anyone who is saying they intentionally increased autism, but they certainly don't want to be questioned and you are a willing dupe
If this was really a pharma plot, it’d be the worst business plan in history. There aren’t any drugs that treat autism directly, and no pill pipeline waiting to cash in
quote:post hoc, ergo propter hoc
The rise in autism diagnoses is real, but it’s mostly explained by changes in criteria, awareness, and services
quote:This strawman is probably why you are so off in this conversation
If you’re looking for industries that actually profit from childhood disorders
Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:38 pm to oklahogjr
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when lies and cherry picked facts are all the maha movement brings I'm not sure how you expect people to react. Most here making accusations can't back up any of it. Hell RFK can't back any of it up with studies or facts.
This coming from you. You are one of the worst personalites on this board, surpassed only by the greatness of SFPPosted on 9/7/25 at 10:39 pm to somethingdifferent
It's not post hoc ergo propter hoc unless you actually make arguments why their controls were poor...
This post was edited on 9/7/25 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:39 pm to TigerDoc
quote:Science is absolutely, unequivocally NOT about "good messaging."
If MAHA could join forces with with others to pump them up with good messaging a bit
Again, if you truly are a physician, that is horrifying
Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:42 pm to somethingdifferent
Public health officials don't just set policy, they get scientific guidance and also persuade the public to follow the policy.
This post was edited on 9/7/25 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:42 pm to somethingdifferent
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Forcing other people to potentially do something against their will, especially health related, is totalitarian and should NEVER, EVER be tolerated.
The inverse of this is forcing people to get an illness against their will. That is fricked up in its own right.
The idea that something might not be beneficial for one group but beneficial for the population as a whole is one of the very basic aspects of mammalian immune systems. Why you morons cannot understand that is beyond me.
Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:48 pm to somethingdifferent
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Science is absolutely, unequivocally NOT about "good messaging."
Technically, the purview of science communication isn’t really the expertise of academic scientists. But the fundamentals of it are the same as they are for classical rhetoric.
Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:49 pm to TigerDoc
quote:Really?
They thought it was a droplet-borne disease because of other coronaviruses we'd seen before and masks do work
quote:Really? Then why did you and telehealth P.A. criticize me for stating the truth and start firehosing genetic fallacy all over the thread? Then, you wouldn't answers the questions and now you're admitting mistakes have been made. Maybe you should take some time to sort things out
There were frick-ups and there always will be frick-ups
Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:51 pm to oklahogjr
quote:62 genders. Progressives told me so
What is scientific certainty?
quote:You might want to tell that to the people who want to assassinate RFKjr or want pornography books in elementary school libraries or won't let kids opt out of transgender studies in public schools
Isn't science always a best guess and understanding?
Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:53 pm to TigerDoc
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I welcome other perspectives
ITT, you're as bad of a fraud as SFP is. I posted facts and you went freaking berserk.Posted on 9/7/25 at 10:54 pm to somethingdifferent
super-dumb, baw. Masks don't have to stop every particle. They just have to stop a sufficient infectious dose.
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