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re: RFK exposing more secrets by Big Pharma…
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:00 am to somethingdifferent
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:00 am to somethingdifferent
Eric Weinstein is like RFK. He acts like a guru, not a responsible intellectual. He tells you all the experts are corrupt and conspiring against you/us and just trust him.
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:02 am to TigerDoc
quote:No, no no. We need to do what the CDC tells us to do you anti-science ignoramous. Where were you in 2020? The CDC told everyone to "trust us, bro."
Most of us don't because we balance risk-protection against convenience
quote:You mean you exercise your freedom? GET RIGHT OUT OF TOWN
I use more pre-cautions when my risk is higher
You keep talking about trust in the institutions, perhaps if the CDC/govt/big tech/Big Pharma had messaging like your quote here, they wouldn't have lost as much "trust"
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:02 am to somethingdifferent
One at a time is my weird quirk, baw. Humor me. 
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:05 am to somethingdifferent
I have a different vision of freedom. We used to live in a world where 1/3 of deaths were of people younger than 5. We collectively chose to exercise our freedom to empower governments decade after decade to do things that protect public health so we can be free of preventable diseases and allow almost all our kids to grow up.
The word "liberty" is complicated. It means a lot of things! One thing it doesn't mean is that if a public health measure is implemented in one context it must or should be implemented in all contexts. I agree that that would be stupid.
The word "liberty" is complicated. It means a lot of things! One thing it doesn't mean is that if a public health measure is implemented in one context it must or should be implemented in all contexts. I agree that that would be stupid.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 12:18 am
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:10 am to crazy4lsu
quote:You are talking about a totally different subject here. That is not what tigertelehealth's point is at all
there is a fierce debate about niche topics which use standard rhetorical techniques to make arguments about where new ideas fit into the structure of what we already know
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he doesn’t bring anything to the table other than his desperate desire to launder his own idiotic ideas into the world
Yet here we are in a 20 page thread discussing something he mentioned quote:Oh yeah? List all his predecessors who questioned the untouchable institutions. Why are you so mad at him if "everyone does what he does?"
That would happen regardless of whether RFK is in charge or not
quote:Then why are you teleheath bots so up in arms about his statements?
it is going to be theater, nothing else
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What specifically about the structure of scientific progress and its relationship with corporate industry is RFK looking to change?
did you even read the OP? What is wrong with you?
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Be specific for once
You mean other than every freaking post I've made itt You need to quit for the night
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:14 am to somethingdifferent
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You are talking about a totally different subject here. That is not what tigertelehealth's point is at all
Nope. I understand what TigerDoc’s point is. You apparently don’t understand the very basics of it though.
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Yet here we are in a 20 page thread discussing something he mentioned
Yes, we are discussing his stupid ideas. What is your point?
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Oh yeah? List all his predecessors who questioned the untouchable institutions. Why are you so mad at him if "everyone does what he does?"
It is crazy that you don’t understand what I mean, especially given your talk about what ‘science’ should be.
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You mean other than every freaking post I've made itt
I asked because your posts are lacking in details. You are also curiously incurious. Surely you wouldn’t wander into a thread not knowing anything about it other than your knee jerk reactionary opinions, right?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:15 am to crazy4lsu
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you just don’t have the background
"Trust me, bro" I have studied the philosophy of science and I know there's some serious anti-science going on from you people. It's clear that you people can't stand these things being questioned because of your emotional attachment. Otherwise, you wouldn't pay him any attention and you certainly wouldn't go on and on like a freaking child for 20 pages about it
quote:Says the person trying to stifle RFKjr to the person who is willing to listen to him
incurious
quote:Do you support banning wingsuit flying? Motorcycles? Surfing? Tell me what all I'm allowed to do Mussolini
And the death that came with it
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:16 am to crazy4lsu
quote:Ah, there it is. "I'm going to make people take vaccines they don't want because I know better. Trust me, bro."
the anti-vaxxers are going to use it as a Trojan horse
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:18 am to TigerDoc
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I have a different vision of freedom. We used to live in a world where 1/3 of deaths were of people younger than 5. We collectively chose to excercise our freedom to empower governments decade after decade to do things that protect public health so we can be free of preventable diseases. The word "liberty" is complicated. It means a lot of things! One thing it doesn't mean is that if a public health measure is implemented in one context it must or should be implemented in all contexts. I agree that that would be stupid.
The idea that a legitimate piece of shite like you can seriously type these words after knowingly pushing blatant lies about a “vaccine” for a virus that was never a threat of any kind to children is simply in comprehensible.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:21 am to crazy4lsu
quote:Then ignore him
He doesn’t
quote:Oh, so he's not all bad after all. WHAT DO YOU KNOW
I mean, it is fine
quote:You would totally miss the point
This is a hell of a non-sequitur to avoid discussing his dishonesty
quote:Says the person whining like an infant about someone who brings no substance to healthcare. Why are you even in this thread??
you desperately need to stay within an argument
If people want to listen to him, so what? Ignore him and ignore them. Mind your own business. If people want to congregate during an outbreak, so what? Let them remove themselves from the gene pool. Stop acting like you know so much better than everyone else and like you should be the boss of everyone
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:21 am to Open Your Eyes
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never a threat of any kind to children is simply in comprehensible.
It killed >1500 kids in the US. Is still killing them, actually.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:23 am to somethingdifferent
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have studied the philosophy of science
Oh yeah? Who did you read?
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It's clear that you people can't stand these things being questioned because of your emotional attachment.
You haven’t questioned me in a meaningful way, and the only thing you have revealed is how far you are from understanding anything that is going on around you. Sad!
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Says the person trying to stifle RFKjr to the person who is willing to listen to him
What in the wide world of sports does this mean? Listen to him as he diagnoses the ‘mitochondrial’ problems of children (his words). I don’t care. I am telling you that he is a grifter who is trying to use this anti-science moment to launder his particularly anti-science ideas. It appears that you want to be on his side. That’s fine and well, but again, if you had any awareness you would understand why you are going to lose.
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Do you support banning wingsuit flying? Motorcycles? Surfing? Tell me what all I'm allowed to do Mussolini
Ahaha. A vaccination campaign that killed more humans than any other ailment in human history is decidedly not like those other things. Again, you appear to want to relieve a particular historical moment because you underrate its importance. That isn’t an uncommon trope in this reactionary nonsense we have to live with, but alas. You are the master of the non-sequitur. RFK could learn a thing or two from you.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:25 am to somethingdifferent
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Ah, there it is. "I'm going to make people take vaccines they don't want because I know better. Trust me, bro."
And what if they don’t know better? Are you willing to invest in making pediatric wards larger? Are you going to tell the woman whose baby has congenital rubella that he child will never hear? Are you going to be there when we have to admit a child to hospice because of paralytic polio? What if these people are also lying to you in the same way you accuse leaders during the pandemic of lying to you? What then?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:26 am to TigerDoc
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Judging a public official's trustworthiness, honesty, and competence isn't really a scientific judgement
FREAKING WOW You seriously are acting like the guy who is bringing light to the liars is the one who you distrust.
It's unbelievable. You've spent 20 pages questioning him but objecting to questioning the "health experts."
quote:So when the front line doctors were telling the public what they observed every day in real time and the CDC/big tech/the govt went to all lengths to discredit them....
They're trained managers which is what they should be because they have a management job, but they will be shite managers administrating a public health service if they substitute crank judgement for real competent advice.
You are an SFP level hypocrite
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:31 am to crazy4lsu
quote:Have the spike proteins been found outside of their target location? We were told they wouldn't move.
What is the symptomotology of these health problems? Give me specifics
quote:I guess your browser can't load the OP for some reason. Do you need it reposted? You're acting like you don't know ANYTHING he's said
He hasn’t questioned anything at this point
Look, I don't think RFKjr is the be all-end all. What I do know is that we need bull-in-a-china-shop people in govt leadership right now. He fits the bill
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:33 am to TigerDoc
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It killed >1500 kids in the US. Is still killing them, actually.
No it didn’t and no it isn’t, actually. As has been repeatedly bashed over your head throughout this thread, stupid people like you used up any and all goodwill you and your profession had when you chose, and continue to choose, for years to lie about the severity of that virus, and the safety and effectiveness of that “vaccine.” No one is falling for your bullshite fear mongering, and you are incapable of handling it. This thread is 20 pages of proof of that.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 12:41 am
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:36 am to TigerDoc
quote:Thank you for a millisecond of honesty and rationality. Where was that about 15 pages ago?
No!
quote:I would say the first thing that is needed is more transparency, which is what I stated about 15 pages ago that I was criticized vehemently for by you and the sycophants. The lack of transparency is causing the problems I listed which was met with apoplectic genetic fallacy
Do you know anyone or have ideas how this could be done yourself?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:38 am to somethingdifferent
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objecting to questioning the "health experts."
I object to bad objections , but I'm for good objections. Experts do need questioning, btw.
And there are good and bad ways to object and good and bad ways to identify trustworthy experts. If you've glommed on to RFK and Eric Weinstein, you need work on this.
More on this tomorrow, but as for the "front line doctors", they're the frauds and we can get into why for this too! G'night, baw.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 12:41 am
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:39 am to somethingdifferent
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Have the spike proteins been found outside of their target location? We were told they wouldn't move.
That doesn't answer my question. What is the symptomatology of these health problems?
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You're acting like you don't know ANYTHING he's said
You are acting like everything he has said is new.
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Look, I don't think RFKjr is the be all-end all. What I do know is that we need bull-in-a-china-shop people in govt leadership right now. He fits the bill
Nah, that's retarded.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:41 am to TigerDoc
quote:This is exactly the kind of small minded response I expected. You think you know who should be able to say what. You're too myopic to understand the value someone like that brings to the scientific enterprise, even if you don't agree with every assertion he makes. Even scientists are saying that
Eric Weinstein is like RFK. He acts like a guru, not a responsible intellectual
quote:Is he wrong? How would you know?
He tells you all the experts are corrupt and conspiring against you/us and just trust him
First, that's an overgeneralization. Even Sean Carroll agrees with him on that particular point.
Second, he's not telling you to trust him. He's saying question the institutions, and he's totally right for doing so
You are a closet fascist. Maybe one day you'll realize it
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