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re: RFK exposing more secrets by Big Pharma…
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:29 am to BBONDS25
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:29 am to BBONDS25
We need Boosie in here for our malpractice expertise. 
Doctors aren’t liable for a bad outcome when they follow the standard of care any more than your mechanic is liable if a car with new brakes still crashes. Vaccines lowered risk but never promised perfection, and that’s the honest basis of the recommendation.
Doctors aren’t liable for a bad outcome when they follow the standard of care any more than your mechanic is liable if a car with new brakes still crashes. Vaccines lowered risk but never promised perfection, and that’s the honest basis of the recommendation.
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:31 am to TigerDoc
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Vaccines lowered risk but never promised perfection, and that’s the honest basis of the recommendation.
And never have to stand up against blind studies. Wow!
What a chicken shite rebuttal.
You are dangerous.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:33 am to TigerDoc
I appreciate the answer. Seems like whomever determined what the standard of care for Covid was had an extraordinary amount of power. Was that Fauci? Or were there more local decision makers?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:35 am to BBONDS25
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Are you fricked if you recommended the vax as a stand alone preventative and they still got covid and died? Or died from complications from the vax? fricked then?
No. And the complications from the vaccine are so rare that they might as well be zebras. It can happen but you might go through your career without actually seeing a vaccine-induced injury that is actually serious.
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What was the appropriate treatment when someone had Covid?
Depends on when they got COVID, as in what year. Early on in the Pandemic doctors were more willing to try anything, including ivermectin and HCQ. And there is a molecular argument for Ivermectin, HCQ and some other medications to be used as something to dampen the IL-1 response, as part of the pathophysiology of COVID infection was a sort of immune 'overreaction' in the lower respiratory tract. Some other medications we used over the years included doxycycline, lincomycin, and ritonavir, in addition to the antibody treatments as well as Paxlovid. As we progressed in management, things became a bit more standardized, but by the time patients progressed to the ICU, it was again trying to look for any workable solution to their immediate issues.
Early in the pandemic, it felt like we were calling codes for the sake of training rather than actually helping people, but that is to be expected at academic, teaching hospitals. I have no idea what things were like at community hospitals.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:35 am to Errerrerrwere
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And never have to stand up against blind studies
Tell me you’ve never designed a study or participated in any scientific research in your life without telling me.
3rd grade science fair doesn’t count, baw.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:35 am to Errerrerrwere
The mRNA vaxxes? They were placebo-controlled and double-blinded (neither clinicians not participants knew if they were getting placebo or active vaccine)
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:36 am to onmymedicalgrind
I do love egging these dudes on though. They truly don't know what they don't know and that never seems to inform their opinions.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:37 am to onmymedicalgrind
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Tell me you’ve never designed a study or participated in any scientific research in your life without telling me. 3rd grade science fair doesn’t count, baw.
Nice. All of this coming from a “specialist”
Stick to surgery; and let those that know more than you talk. Remember you already admitted ITT that you know a LOT about a LITTLE.
You don’t know shite.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:37 am to TigerDoc
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The mRNA vaxxes? They were placebo-controlled and double-blinded (neither clinicians not participants knew if they were getting placebo or active vaccine)
And who funded those studies? It rhymes with pig dharma
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:39 am to TigerDoc
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The mRNA vaxxes? They were placebo-controlled and double-blinded (neither clinicians not participants knew if they were getting placebo or active vaccine)
Are you saying that this is true? Why did the efficacy decrease the more vaccines and boosters you took?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:39 am to BBONDS25
It wasn’t decided by one person. National groups like the CDC & FDA review the trial data and issued recommendations, but standard of care is really built through layers - medical societies & subspecialties like infectious disease & pulm/critical care publish guidance, state and local health departments adapt it, hospitals set their own policies, and individual physicians apply it to their patients. IOW, it’s a broad professional consensus process, not the decree of a single official.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:41 am to Errerrerrwere
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Remember you already admitted ITT that you know a LOT about a LITTLE.
I never told you what that “little”’is though :-)
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and let those that know more than you talk.
Your science background ended at what grade? Before or after elementary school? Why are you talking then? This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 11:43 am
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:42 am to onmymedicalgrind
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Your science background ended at what grade? Before or after elementary school?
Engineering degree from LSU.
Not a DEI walk in for med school!
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:42 am to Errerrerrwere
Yes, it's true. Crazy could answer the waning efficacy better than me (he knows way more immunology) but the short answer is that the previous vaccines (+/- previous covid infection) retains some long-lasting benefit although it wanes over time, so there's a real but diminishing returns effect with subsequent vaccinations.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:43 am to TigerDoc
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Yes, it's true.
We know
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Crazy could answer the waning efficacy better than me (he knows way more immunology) but the short answer is that the previous vaccines (+/- previous covid infection) retains some long-lasting benefit although it wanes over time, so there's a real but diminishing returns effect with subsequent vaccinations.
Word salad.
Aka
“Help me Crazy!”
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:43 am to Errerrerrwere
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Engineering degree from LSU.
That’s cute. I guess you think that means you know more about medicine than people who studied medicine
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:44 am to TigerDoc
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It wasn’t decided by one person. National groups like the CDC & FDA review the trial data and issued recommendations, but standard of care is really built through layers - medical societies & subspecialties like infectious disease & pulm/critical care publish guidance, state and local health departments adapt it, hospitals set their own policies, and individual physicians apply it to their patients. IOW, it’s a broad professional consensus process, not the decree of a single official.
That is comforting. It seems like a somewhat lengthy process. What do yall do initially when something like a pandemic hits?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:44 am to TigerDoc
And then the entire placebo group was vaxxed after a very short time period, eliminating the possibility for long-term evaluation
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:45 am to onmymedicalgrind
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That’s cute. I guess you think that means you know more about medicine than people who studied medicine
I hope you never ever disagree with my legal opinion.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:45 am to onmymedicalgrind
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That’s cute. I guess you think that means you know more about medicine than people who studied medicine
I can read and understand a scientific study you fricking moron.
But you ALWAYS attack the messenger.
Never the message
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