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Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4108 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:36 pm to
That’s not even the date for what I was referencing....the date Trump banned travel from China, which was well before March 11th, is what I clearly stated....so thanks for proving my point.....

and if you can read you will also notice I said this was a couple of weeks ago that I was searching this, which is important because this was before the talking point was Trump didn’t ban travel from China soon enough and this is his fault. So if you can find it now that doesn’t mean two shits to me
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27294 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:50 pm to
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"Shaded areas indicate uncertainty"


Florida's highest spike is predicted for April 17. Their (LINK highly sophisticated estimate for the number of deaths that day? Between 34 and 430. Literally an order of magnitude range.

I took a screen shot of some of their data on March 29 just for the heck of it. Their prediction for beds and bed shortages, one of THE metrics driving the "flatten the curve" were thus:

Peak Resource Day - April 14th
Beds needed: 232,298 causing a shortage of 49,292
ICU beds needed: 34,754 causing a shortage of 14, 601

Their data today?
Peak Resource Day - April 11th
Beds needed: 94,249 causing a shortage of 15,852
ICU beds needed: 19,438 causing a shortage of 9,047

232,298 ------> 94,249
34,754 -------> 14,601

And that's just comparing their own projections to their own projections. I saw a comparison a few days ago of their bed projections to actual data and it was awful.

But the models are "correct". Honk honk.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
42241 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:00 pm to
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Well both people I know who had this said it was much worse than any flu they’ve ever had. Both fairly young with no underlying issues. But here I realize that nobody would believe that. Because it’s only hard on old people.

It's hard on Black people, too. You're shaped into being so politically correct you're afraid to state fact.
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:02 pm to
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See!?! the death count was no worse than the flu!!!!!”


FIFY
Posted by Coater
Madison, MS
Member since Jun 2005
33552 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:28 pm to
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Well both people I know who had this said it was much worse than any flu they’ve ever had.


Well my wife had it and said having the flu 2 years ago was “10 times worse”

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My wife (no pics) runs, cycles, yoga and probably “extra” cardio with her trainer had it. Couldn’t taste or smell for a week, achy for 1 day and low grade temp for 2.


This was my wife’s experience except aches lasted 3 days. Fever never higher than 99. Mild cough. Only got tested because we had just returned from Gunnison County, CO
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 9:31 pm
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32040 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:32 pm to
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ou really think "social distancing" is having any real affect on this?


Sociol distancing is definitely having an impact. Our 5000 person office is empty like countless others. It’s making an impact. How much? Well, we’ll never know.
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:41 pm to
Of course social distancing is having an effect. When is the last time you shook someone’s hand. That alone is reducing spread.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64190 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:42 pm to
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Comparing the numbers to influenza numbers after we all took extraordinary measures to mitigate COVID 19 is slightly moronic.


We never mitigated anything. This virus was worldwide before New Year's Eve.
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:54 pm to
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The average flu season isn’t close to 60K US deaths. Rush struck out.



The 2017-2018 flu season had 80,000 people in the US died from the flu.
Not one business shut down, and hospitals were not over run with patients. Hospitals were very busy, but none claimed to be over run with flu patients.

Some people dying from COVID would also die if they got the flu or other type of illnesses. Most are over weight, diabetic, and have high blood pressure.
If a person has these symptoms, lung disease, leukemia, HIV or other serious illnesses, this could cause them to die. These people should have "Stay at home" orders. Everyone else can get back to business as usual, and stay away from the "Stay at Home" crowd.
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5482 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:59 pm to
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LOL! Grocery stores are packed. Home improvement stores are packed. You really think "social distancing" is having any real affect on this?


I’m a conservative and a Trump guy but this the stupidest thing I have read today. Restaurants, bars, schools, colleges, casinos, most places of business, air travel, the hotel industry, Disney World, concerts, baseball, basketball, museums, state and national parks etc are all closed and you are saying Albertsons is packed and because of this social distancing isn’t working. Shut the frick up.
Posted by OutOfNames
Member since Dec 2019
1059 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:05 pm to
It is 100% flu numbers. If you didn't have a flu shot to knock out the most vulnerable parts of the population, flu wouldn't be 20k, it'd be 60k.
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:15 pm to
If it is 100% flu numbers, is Trump bamboozled by his “experts” into continuing the faulty narrative? Even today he is talking how bad it is.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14530 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:54 pm to
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and if you can read


If you could use the internet you wouldn’t look like such a dumbass.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27294 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:58 pm to
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Of course social distancing is having an effect.


A 2 trillion dollar effect so far, even completely ignoring the damage to the economy. It’s probably closer to 3 or 4 when you factor in that damage, and that’s without another stimulus.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20985 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:07 pm to
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Who are the cowards down voting FACTUAL information?



Science deniers
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27294 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:20 pm to
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Science deniers


The emotional attachment people have to an outcome they thought would happen is freaking weird. I could sorta understand it if their presumed outcome was positive, but it wasn’t.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33818 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:55 am to
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So you think that corona was transmitting at the same rate as the flu in December?

10x more infectious than the flu. In any month, per Fauci
quote:

Since COVID-19 emerged in China two and a half months ago, “it clearly is not as lethal ... but it certainly spreads better,” he said, adding seasonal flu has a mortality rate of 0.1%.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35378 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:02 am to
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IHME model has readjusted from 2.2 million US death to 60K,
The IMHE model initially predicted 84,000 deaths, then rose to 94,000, and has decreased from there.

So it’s very highest prediction was 2.1 million deaths lower than 2.2 million.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 1:03 am
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35378 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:09 am to
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The 2017-2018 flu season had 80,000 people in the US died from the flu.
It was 61,000, one of the worst seasons in years, had 4 different strains circulating with peaks at different times of the year, and that was over the course of like 8 months.

And those figures are based on the estimates that they do after the season, which often is 3 to 4 times higher than the confirmed case fatalities.

H1N1 is estimated to have killed over 12,000 in 2009-2010 in the US over the course of a year, and there were only a little over 3,000 confirmed case fatalities.

Our confirmed case fatalities are nearly 5 times that figure in just 10% of the time.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 1:09 am
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
49058 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:29 am to
And that includes if I fall off a cliff at the Grand Canyon they say I died of covid
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