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re: Schumer is badly misplaying the Gorsuch nomination
Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:19 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:19 pm to DawgsLife
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You do realize that Harry Reid already changed the rules, right? the only thing that was not included in the Nuclear option was the Supreme Court.
And legislation
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:25 pm to BamaAtl
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Unilateral disarmament is silly in this context. If they're willing to go nuclear to replace Scalia, surely they are to replace RBG. Let's make sure everyone knows exactly what is at stake in 2018 and beyond.
Doing things the right way* is not disarmament. Both options have the same result––Associate Justice Neil Gorsuch on the SCOTUS.
Democrats, including myself, spent the last 8 years calling out Republicans for being obstructionist and damaging our institutions. It's time to put up, or shut up.
I'd hope people already know what's at stake. Forcing the GOP to filibuster will just rile up the base. Your average American probably doesn't care.
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:27 pm to Gaspergou202
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:30 pm to the LSUSaint
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:34 pm to Ag Zwin
quote:No question!
Schumer is badly misplaying the Gorsuch nomination
Giving away the filibuster on the Gorsuch nom is nuts!
Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:39 pm to NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:44 pm to The Baker
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Dems are playing long right now. They are baiting the GOP into changing the rules... they want to radicalize the courts as much as possible down the road.
That's why we need to put in 2 or 3 young justtices that make Scalia sound like a Ginsburg twin, then have the Republican state legislatures demand a Constitutional convention that enforces the 60 rule.
Done and done!!
Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:44 pm to Gaspergou202
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GOP passes every libtard nomination as long as they are qualified! Basically they will go to SCOTUS if they can walk, chew gum, and were a judge on a federal level.
GOP held up basically all of Obamas federal judicial nominees from 2012-2013 when Harry Reid killed the filibuster. This is the problem with finger pointing re: nominations. Both sides have pulled bullshite going back forever. Now politicans justify their current tactics around confirmation based on past behavior of the other party.
It's time to call a truce and hit reset, but it will never happen.
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They have never Borked a judge nor have they tried to derail a nomination with made up shite like Thomas.
Bork was different than most nominees. He got a low rating from the ABA and did himself 0 favors in his testimony. He also had written and spoken heavily on controversial issues
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Inaction on the Garland nomination follows DNC precedent.
No, but it did follow previous DNC political posturing. The GOP didnt have to confirm Merrick Garland, but they should have held a vote.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:47 pm to The Baker
quote:Partisan stupidity
Which makes me think there's something else at play here.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:48 pm to beaverfever
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The Democrats throw as much shite against the wall as possible and just rely on their ability to spin and the support they have from the msm. Once upon a time it might have been more nuanced
Seems to be were we are at.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:52 pm to NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:53 pm to MasterofTigerBait
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Bork was different than most nominees. He got a low rating from the ABA and did himself 0 favors in his testimony. He also had written and spoken heavily on controversial issues
Bork was more than qualified
Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:54 pm to Ag Zwin
It's appalling that an Affirmative Action lightweight like Sonia Sotomayor can get 68 votes (69 if cancer ridden Ted Kennedy had been well enough to vote), but a distinguished jurist like Neil Gorsuch can't cross the 60 threshold.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:56 pm to goatmilker
The current state of the Democrat party is sad. Under Schumer they are unwilling to compromise or listen to anyone different that themselves.
Trump is willing to negotiate so the dems get some of what they want but instead of playing the game Schumer wants to flip the board over.
This mindset is one of weakness and is bad for all Americans in the longterm.
Trump is willing to negotiate so the dems get some of what they want but instead of playing the game Schumer wants to flip the board over.
This mindset is one of weakness and is bad for all Americans in the longterm.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 5:57 pm to Ag Zwin
The Democratic base is still pissed about Merrick Garland. They want their representatives to go against this as a matter of principle. Also if they allow Gorsuch to make it on to the supreme court the Repubs will have successfully cheated and won.
In the end, Gorsuch will be appointed to the court, but the Dems feel like this should have been their seat to fill. (and if you look at this a-politically, they'd be right)
The filibuster will appease their base but in the long run it is the poor tactical choice.
In the end, Gorsuch will be appointed to the court, but the Dems feel like this should have been their seat to fill. (and if you look at this a-politically, they'd be right)
The filibuster will appease their base but in the long run it is the poor tactical choice.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 6:28 pm to ctalati32
To be a dem once meant you were a liberal. To be a liberal thinker means you are will to consider both sides to an argument then make your decision.
CNN once had a show called Crossfire.
Can you imagine having that show today?
We are going down a dark path no matter who you suppot politically. While politicians are busy padding pockets.
CNN once had a show called Crossfire.
Can you imagine having that show today?
We are going down a dark path no matter who you suppot politically. While politicians are busy padding pockets.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 6:32 pm to Ag Zwin
Schumer has accepted their future as a regional party, his only option is to appeal to their lunatic base, they've lost working whites.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 6:53 pm to habanos
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CNN once had a show called Crossfire.
Can you imagine having that show today?
Have you listened to the podcast: Left, Right, and Center ? Weekly debate from 3 sides on a given topic. The closest I've seen to re-creating crossfire
https://www.kcrw.com/news-culture/shows/left-right-center
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We are going down a dark path no matter who you support politically. While politicians are busy padding pockets.
Totally agree.
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 8:14 pm to The Baker
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Dems are playing long right now.
They are baiting the GOP into changing the rules... they want to radicalize the courts as much as possible down the road.
lol. That is a stretch further than reason allows. You do realize the probability Trump gets one more and maybe 2 more justices right? The assumption they will be in the WH when the 3rd opening comes up is a highly unlikely.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 8:19 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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