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Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:27 pm to
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"God" being the name narrows it down greatly, past just a neutral ID, down to a specific religion.


"God" simply references a creator in monotheistic belief. The term is always capitalized in that sense. Nothing unique to Christianity.
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:47 pm to
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NC_Tigah


I tried to get your attention for a "Merry Christmas" but was ignored.

Anyway, Happy New Year to you and your family. Oh, and you'll be happy to know that my practice has actually been doing good things for deserving people (no contingency fees, btw).
Posted by CollegeFBRules
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:48 pm to
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"God" simply references a creator in monotheistic belief. The term is always capitalized in that sense. Nothing unique to Christianity.


May God see you have a happy, healthy, and marvelous New Year, NC.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:49 pm to
Happy New Year, VOR.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:57 pm to
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I tried to get your attention for a "Merry Christmas" but was ignored.

Anyway, Happy New Year to you and your family.
Thanks VOR. Happy New Year to you and yours too!
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my practice has actually been doing good things for deserving people
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:58 pm to
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Intelligent design, anyone?


This is about as bad as the german war machine at the end of WWII.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 9:02 pm to
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May God see you have a happy, healthy, and marvelous New Year, NC.
Well I'm on call, and not quite recovered from influenza . . . and the Tigers lost. So much for happy, healthy, and marvelous.

Happy New Year to you too CFBR

This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 9:04 pm
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 9:05 pm to
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CollegeFBRules


CFB, my brah. Happy NY to you and y'ern.

I'm just happy I have another 8 months or so before I have to start worrying about LSU football again.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 9:11 pm to
passive agnosticism with a tinge of Deism really is the best play here

Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 9:24 pm to
Or this could all be explained by the extreme vastness of time. Other civilizations may only send detectable signals for a blip of time in the grand scheme of things. Once they get to a certain point they may go incognito.

I mean, what is 300 years when compared to the few billion years that life could have emerged from?

Also, there may be a super race that has wiped everyone else out. We just don't know the answer.

The main point is that, just because you can't explain something, it doesn't mean that it was magic or that God did it.
Posted by 756
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 10:09 pm to
or that God did not do it
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 10:16 pm to
I cannot comprehend the complexity of the beginning of the Universe.

When I ponder about the chances of single things among many things that had to happen in the terms of one in 100,000,000,000,000,000 as the author points out I can't declare there is no God.

I don't see how any thinking person can make such a declaration.

The chances of everyone in the world winning the power ball 10 times in their life are better than the chances the Universe coming together as it did.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 10:28 pm to
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I mean, what is 300 years when compared to the few billion years that life could have emerged from?



I wouldn't matter if it were trillions of years. Some things simply do not happen by mere time and chance.
This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 11:24 pm to
It is the astronomical odds that leaves me dumbfounded and always has. Not even considering the odds of the formation of the universe itself, the odds of actual INTELLIGENT life, not just life, are ridiculously small. Just look at the amount of life on Earth and how many species have come and gone over 3+ billion years. How much of it is intelligent - meaning intelligent enough to manipulate its environment to its technological advantage? One species - us.

Seems to me it is highly likely we are alone.

The problem is we have no other life to compare ourselves to. Earth life is relative to itself only. If we could only find one bacterial cell of alien origin, it would give us something to go on. Something to the effect: "So, respiration can happen THAT way also!" Without that, there is no way of knowing what exactly the odds are. You can bet though that, as the author states, Sagan's calculations are extremely optimistic.

But even Albert Einstein leaned toward a pantheistic god.
This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 11:40 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:36 am to
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But is there a religion without a God?? How does capitalizing G imply an endorsement of the Christian Bible?? I am curious how that logic works.


I can see how it would be taken that way. There are three major monotheistic religions in the world. Judaism would write His name as "G-d" and Islam would render the name as "Allah". "God" would thus imply Christianity.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:15 am to
OK. This column was fricking awful writing and we already covered it. Why the frick is it on here again?
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:33 am to
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OK. This column was fricking awful writing and we already covered it. Why the frick is it on here again?


Because it's the only thing that matters; it's either belief in God...or belief in eternal non-existence, and the nullification all the potential Beauty in perceptual Humanity. Belief in the former has positive psychological affects...the latter...negative. This matters; therefore the never-ending argument, regarding what ultimately is a SUBJECTIVE and formative choice. Just like with Love, perception becomes reality...but only if one first believes (validates the concept), and then cultivates that Grand Idea.

Happy New Year to my PoliBoard brethren. Love yall. Great place to refine our beliefs...and have fun doing it.





Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:19 am to
Well a little late on the hit parade, but merry christmas and happy new year you to VOR, CFBR, NC, and all others.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:37 pm to
ShortyRob I did not realize it had been posted before. Sorry for that.

The political implications of this purported trend in scientific thinking is that it lessens the stigma some liberals seek to create around Christians.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:41 pm to
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The political implications of this purported trend in scientific thinking is that it lessens the stigma some liberals seek to create around Christians.


no.

The fact that more and more people are realizing that some magic guy didn't create the universe has created the "stigma" around people of your mythology.

You guys are your own worst enemy.
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