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re: SCOTUS Tariff Ruling is in: 6-3 against tariffs.

Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471354 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:40 pm to
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Come on now, we can all breathe a sigh of relief that Trump successfully blocked the commies from implementing climate change tariffs in the future.

Now that that mission is accomplished, Trump can now set his sites on reshoring American manufacturing.

Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42324 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:41 pm to
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Me, I'm LMAO because nothing has changed.


Your absolute cope melt today is odd way of saying you have been laughing
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
11952 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:41 pm to
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For all of this talk about Plan B, I cannot for the life of me understand why we’d want to go there in the first place. The end result of what was implemented here is small businesses were hammered for no reason


I own 3(counting my wife''s). None were hit and none were closed.

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many went out of business.


BS.


I just want to make sure I'm reading your post correctly.

Are you saying that you know what happened to 36.2 million small businesses in America because you own 3 of them and know that they didn't suffer?

I'm just checking. Surely you wouldn't say something that stupid, but you never know around here.

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BS


Data says it's true.

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Widespread Impact: About 62% to 81% of small businesses report that tariffs have negatively impacted their operations, leading to higher costs, price increases, and delayed expansions.

High Risk: Small businesses, which make up 97% of U.S. importers, face intense pressure from increased costs, with 74% expressing concern about their survival over a 12-month period.

Job Losses: Small businesses with fewer than 50 employees experienced significant job cuts, such as 120,000 workers laid off in November 2025 alone.

Manufacturing Impact: Approximately 40,000 small businesses are manufacturers, and many are struggling with the costs of imported materials


That's from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

I don't know why anyone would doubt it or deny it. It's exactly what some of us told you was going to happen with these tariffs, and none of us are the Amazing Kreskin...it's what happened in Trump's first term, just on a much smaller scale (because the tariffs were smaller and more focused.)

When idiots like Slow Dumb Vagina Tiger were crowing about prices not going up (which they have already in some industries), some of us tried to tell you cult members that passing along the cost was only one possible negative consequence of the tariffs. Laying off workers, downsizing, freezing raises and promotions, cancelling expansions, etc. is likely what would happen first as businesses tried to avoid losing market share by being the first to raise prices, eventually giving way to the inevitable, which is either closing your doors if demand doesn't allow price increases, or raising prices.

According to that data, looks like that will happen sometime this year.

My original prediction was this summer. Might take a little longer based on that info from the Chamber of Commerce.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471354 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:41 pm to
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Amazing. It is like blindly following a sports team.


Reading the old thread, and all the "Defending the left/Biden" idiocy, I wonder if they're reversing course now with Trump's tariffs
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42324 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:42 pm to
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I own 3(counting my wife''s). None were hit and none were closed.



No one cares about your lemonade stand when real businesses have been closing and suffering.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2737 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:43 pm to
"stroke of the pen, law of the land"

Paul Begala
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
11952 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:45 pm to
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He has an uncanny ability to take a loss and make it seem like a win (to his base, at least).


Nah.

He doesn't even have to try to do that with his base. Remember, "I could shoot someone in the face on 5th Ave. and my poll numbers would go up?"

There's no special skill needed to spin to cult members.

The special skill is creating the cult members in the first place.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9994 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:47 pm to
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None were hit and none were closed.


And what exactly do you do?

Because we own one and were impacted. I've shared supplier emails and even an example we had with one of our clients. As far as I know I may be the only poster that went to that level of openness.

It isn't BS that small businesses had extreme difficulty and impossibilities in replacing their supply chains depending on what they sell. You should already know that so stop pretending otherwise. Just because you may own a business that wasn't impacted doesn't make it true for everyone else. Which you seem to be speaking for. You and your wife may very well not provide services that were impacted. We have had multiple posters here share examples and they're not exactly leftists looking to take a dump on Trump.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6886 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:49 pm to
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Your absolute cope melt today is odd way of saying you have been laughing


I'm laughing at you. I said early on that Trump will continue them and he did.

Cry more
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9994 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:55 pm to
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I said early on that Trump will continue them and he did.


For the record I don't have a problem with that. I just want it to be done legally. The spin to defend this loss is what cracks me up.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136931 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:56 pm to
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What other statute was used in place of the ACA?
The Anti-Injunction Act conflict notwithstanding?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62895 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:58 pm to
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Come on now, we can all breathe a sigh of relief that Trump successfully blocked the commies from implementing climate change tariffs in the future.
because no one in the future could have brought a suit against the tariffs. Hell, why didn't Trump sue himself?

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Now that that mission is accomplished, Trump can now set his sites on reshoring American manufacturing
. I thought tariffs were supposed to replace the income tax, and provide free-money checks to err'y body.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156661 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:59 pm to
After Mexico paid for the wall things were humming along and now this disappointment.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62895 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:01 pm to
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My god, the cope. It's incomprehensible.
They're like Aggie fans. "THey didn't lose, they just ran out of time"
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62895 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:04 pm to
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What law is that actually that says we can be victims of other country tariffs but can't have tariffs ourselves?
The same law that says we're allowed to have teh strongest, most-desired currency on the planet.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6886 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:06 pm to
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wackatimesthree


You screwed your whole argument when you invoked the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

In short.. frick the Chamber.


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Are you saying that you know what happened to 36.2 million small businesses in America because you own 3 of them and know that they didn't suffer?


Nope. I'm saying that it's BS that there was a massive closing of businesses due to this.

And hell yeah the Chamber will try to say it was because they are 100% on the other side of the coin in what they want. The Chamber ceased to be a help to small businesses, mom and pop businesses a long time ago.

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Widespread Impact: About 62% to 81% of small businesses report that tariffs have negatively impacted their operations, leading to higher costs, price increases, and delayed expansions. High Risk: Small businesses, which make up 97% of U.S. importers, face intense pressure from increased costs, with 74% expressing concern about their survival over a 12-month period. Job Losses: Small businesses with fewer than 50 employees experienced significant job cuts, such as 120,000 workers laid off in November 2025 alone. Manufacturing Impact: Approximately 40,000 small businesses are manufacturers, and many are struggling with the costs of imported materials


Nowhere in that does it even mention going out of business.

So here's the deal. You want to bitch and scream about tariffs and how they hurt US businesses and then you post some BS from the Chamber. While at the same time laughing your arse off when somebody mentions the trade deficit and how it cost the USA massive losses in jobs and businesses.

2001–2011 China WTO Entry; Deficit triples. 60,000+ small manufacturing firms closed. Not struggling, not having to raise prices.. not laying off. Actually out of business.

1971 was the last year the US had a trade surplus. Nixon ended the "Gold Standard" (the Bretton Woods system). The dollar was no longer backed by gold. This allowed the US to run deficits indefinitely because we could now "print" the global reserve currency without needing gold to back it up.

Between 1979 and 1983 alone, U.S. manufacturing lost nearly 3 million jobs. Where was your fake concern?

You all complain about the printing of money and our debt. Yet it turns out, you just really don't give a shite.


We can not continue to run massive trade deficits. Period. You may want to go back and study the issue.

Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6886 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:06 pm to
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BeeFense5


Dumbass! We are done here.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6886 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:08 pm to
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It isn't BS that small businesses had extreme difficulty and impossibilities in replacing their supply chains depending on what they sell.


Where did I say that there was not an adjustment? Just like there was an adjustment when we decided to go the libertarian route in trade.

But the over the top "the world is ending" is simply BS. It's not.

And you will have tariffs. period. Get use to it.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26422 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:10 pm to
You're actually getting a lot of upvotes in this thread, surprising. But I agree here, use the proper paths to tariffs and none of this happens.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62895 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:11 pm to
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I own 3(counting my wife''s). None were hit and none were closed.
Oh look! An unverifiable n=3 anecdote.

I'll raise you an n=8, because I've seen several customers cease offering products completely, 2 closings, and several others move all of their production overseas because of Trump's tariffs.
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