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re: Security failure. Again.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:38 pm to TFH
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:38 pm to TFH
quote:
Why is the high ground not being secured?
A nine year old playing Fortnite knows it’s all about the high ground.
I hate to arm chair QB, but a very quick drone sweep of the roofs before he took stage could have prevented this.
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:39 pm to TFH
All security needs to be revamped, we are in a new age where the severe mentally ill antifa/trans/average democrat voter will assassinate anyone they disagree with politically.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:40 pm to ItTakesAThief
This argument would fly (no pun intended) before the edge of drones.
No reason someone can’t fly a drone around looking at the tops of buildings. It’s a different world now and security has yet to adapt.
No reason someone can’t fly a drone around looking at the tops of buildings. It’s a different world now and security has yet to adapt.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:42 pm to Rebel
This thread is unbelievably dumb....
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:43 pm to Hateradedrink
quote:
No reason someone can’t fly a drone around looking at the tops of buildings. It’s a different world now and security has yet to adapt.
Exactly.... We film football games with drones... no reason we can't run security detail with them.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:43 pm to LSUMANINVA
Why not have a drone surveybthe area. Seems cheap.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:43 pm to Rebel
quote:
I hate to arm chair QB, but a very quick drone sweep of the roofs before he took stage could have prevented this.
have we found out if he was on the roof when he shot or whether he shot from a room within a building?
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:43 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
1. Security is incompetent
2. It is on purpose
I'm not sure which is worse but it's one of the two for sure.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:44 pm to lsufball19
quote:
I do think we've send the end of outdoor events like this. So much more difficult to provide security outside than inside an arena.
Agreed
Now that this has happened anyone that is really big in that space isn't going to want to do outdoor events IMO
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:44 pm to TFH
What a sad state of affairs that you need security to sweep the rooftops just to have a debate.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:44 pm to lsufball19
The news is showing drone footage of his supposed position on the roof and the impressions he left in the pea gravel up there. Also, there is a video being played of someone focusing on what appears to be a person prone on the roof
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:45 pm to lsufball19
Ive got a buddy with 1 drone that could watch that whole place and make sure noone was on a building withing shooting range.
I just dont get it either. Just like PA. Easy fix. Common sense. stuff.
I just dont get it either. Just like PA. Easy fix. Common sense. stuff.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:47 pm to TFH
Well, this wasn’t a politician. Im sure they get different security measures. He possibly paid for his own security.
Although, it was a political figure. Idk how you could fully blame security.
Although, it was a political figure. Idk how you could fully blame security.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:47 pm to Hawgleg
I have my drone sitting in front of me at the moment. With five batteries I can fly continuously with ~2min breaks to swap them out. I’ve flown for over four hours on a well blowout
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:48 pm to DUKE87
quote:
Well, this wasn’t a politician. Im sure they get different security measures. He possibly paid for his own security.
Although, it was a political figure. Idk how you could fully blame security.
This thread is an emotional response thread. It's understandable that people are emotional and looking for something to blame....but it's just a thread created out of emotion.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:49 pm to lsufball19
Yes. He was on the roof.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:49 pm to DUKE87
Not blaming anyone. But, obviously, this is something that needs to be considered and likely should have been after Butler. He does have security and he did have police presence. Securing roof access the day before is not hard
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:49 pm to Hawgleg
Drone before event does not matter as you could access during event. A shooter would not want to be up there long.
This was very close to an airport. You would have to have tower clearance to fly and probably would have a height restriction of around 50 feet.
This was very close to an airport. You would have to have tower clearance to fly and probably would have a height restriction of around 50 feet.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:50 pm to ItTakesAThief
Getting tower clearance is easy. I’ve done it all over Houston. And 200+ feet is standard.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:51 pm to TFH
In hindsight bullet proof glass at these outdoor events...like POTUS does.
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