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Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:18 pm to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:18 pm to
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Here is where you’re wrong. The act of accelerating toward the officer was attempted murder of a police officer. His leaping out of the way does not neutralize the threat.


I said she was in the wrong for initially being pointed at him. I said he was justified in shooting her.

There's just no evidence that she was trying to kill multiple officers as Noem said. I agree with what JD Vance said today, "we will never know if she just panicked or she really wanted to kill the agent."
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:19 pm to
Thanks. Why was she there and then why wasn’t she being allowed to leave?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39328 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:19 pm to
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Is "hit" the same as "run over?"
For these purposes, yes.

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his arm was pinned inside it and he was dragged 100 yards.
That's great.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24272 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:20 pm to
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You're right that this does seem to make it not look like the 2nd video does not show him being hit. It's hard to tell though.


No he's not, the vehicle definitely pushes the agent as his body moves with the direction of the vehicle while his posture and bodily movement take no action that would move him away from the vehicle.

Harry carry and this low t times liar are retards.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 5:21 pm
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
18765 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:20 pm to
She was a Marxist.

She was being detained.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
21024 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:22 pm to
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Why was she there
She lived in the neighborhood.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
6388 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:23 pm to
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the another is a pardon


Prez can’t pardon him for offenses covered by the state’s criminal code. I seriously doubt that he’ll ever get prosecuted by the State of Minnesota even in absentia. However, with Walz and Ellison who knows.
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2286 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:27 pm to
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I can clearly see him out of the way and her wheel turned away from him as he's shooting his first shot.


You are estimating that you can clearly see him based on the appearance of his foot position between the other officer's legs, but you can't clearly see him because the other officer is blocking the view of him.

And if the human brain processed information instantly, there might be more weight to that point, but it doesn't.

If he has the ability to pause time and watch everything repeatedly and in slow-mo, as you have, then arrest him. But processing what was happening in real time and expecting that he could instantly analyze that she wasn't going to run him over, even though she initially drove right at him, is unreasonable.

She chose to drive around and harass law enforcement that day. She chose to ignore lawful commands to exit her vehicle. She chose to attempt to flee. She chose to hit an officer in her attempt to flee. All of those are not only repeated bad choices, but crimes that led directly to her being shot.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
18765 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:29 pm to
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I seriously doubt that he’ll ever get prosecuted by the State of Minnesota even in absentia. However, with Walz and Ellison who knows.


Not to mention, she was white. If this would have been your everyday common ghetto hood rat, like George Floyd, Trayvon Martin or Mike Brown, you'd see rioting everywhere. ...as well as misguided law suits.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4495 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:30 pm to
Good video and fair analysis. It's only a few minutes long so folks should check it out.

Other observations:

-- Quick Draw McGraw was initially holding his phone as a camera. It remained in his left hand while he unloaded with his right.

-- He was NOT "run over" or close to it.

-- No LEOs attended to the shot crashed perp/driver after she smashed into the parked cars.

-- Quick Draw calmly remained on the scene, shushed a bystander before picking up and driving away from the scene. (NOT detained to give an on-scene account of the incident??)

Moreover...

-- WHY is Kristie Noem OR the President even commenting on this?

I hate to say it -- from what I can see, we've been had. It made no sense. This....is....an op. Theater. Not even going out on a limb. Divide & Conquer. Chaos. Already it's paying off in demonstrations -- present and future.








Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:31 pm to
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The video doesn't add anything we don't already know. He was hit by the car but not runover. She was trying to flee, but she still hit him with her car to do it.


I learned that:
-none of the ICE officers who interacted with her (including the shooter) before the Nissan truck showed up thought she was doing anything that merited arrest
-Agent Ross was clear of her vehicle before he shot at her, then beside her for the second shot, and behind her for the third shot
-that she wasn't killed by the first shot through the windshield
-that Agent Ross wasn't injured enough to keep him from walking normally
-that Agent Ross and other agents were wisked away from a crime scene without being interrogated
-that ICE didn't render any first aid to the victim and prevented a doctor from even checking her pulse
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 5:33 pm
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
18765 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:31 pm to
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WHY is Kristie Noem OR the President even commenting on this?


..."if I had a son..."
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4495 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:32 pm to
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The agent was hit by the vehicle.

This same agent evidently was actually struck and injured in an earlier incident last year or whatever.


Quite a coincidence.

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:34 pm to
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if I had a son..."


Absolutely a fair comparison.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:36 pm to
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She lived in the neighborhood.


And had just dropped off her son at daycare (school?).
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
18765 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:36 pm to
Yep, he was fully engaged in it. He also said "Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago".
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:39 pm to
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Yep, he was fully engaged in it. He also said "Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago"


I don't think people realize what foundational damage the Trayvon Martin Hoax did to the Republic.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4495 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:40 pm to
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Agent Ross and other agents were wisked away from a crime scene without being interrogated


ICE didn't render any first aid to the victim and prevented a doctor from even checking her pulse


If you're just an actor, none of that is necessary. Just sayin'.

Posted by BeachTiger2018
Pinellas County FL
Member since Aug 2022
1338 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:41 pm to
I watched your video (muted, so I could avoid any narration).

The officer acted in self defense.

Don’t put the vehicle in drive and accelerate forward when LEOs are surrounding your vehicle, instructing you to get out.
It’s not complicated.

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:43 pm to
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The officer acted in self defense.


I certainly agree with that.
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