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Posted on 5/16/23 at 7:37 am to fareplay
no one who asks or supports this goes to Wednesday prayer meeting or Thursday choir practice.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 7:37 am to the808bass
quote:Our Church and our denomination provides either a parsonage or a stipend as part of their total compensation package. Preachers would typically stay at one Church for only a few years before they were moved to another. Don't practice that as much anymore but by providing a parsonage over their career, retiring preachers and family find themselves in a pinch at retirement with no home equity. They often end up renting if they didn't do a whole lot of planning over the years. Removing 501(c)3 status from Churches would be devastating. Seems to me it would be better to get those 50% that pay no income tax to do so. Tax revenue from taxing churches would be miniscule compared to getting the other 50% paying taxes.
So Jesse is provided that benefit by the church and then pays taxes on the benefit.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 7:50 am to fareplay
You sound a lot like Lenin. Why would anyone be in favor of more theft? We should want less people paying taxes and the gment having a smaller budget. Our taxes will never cover the budget again, taxes are just a power move now. Placing the government over the Lord in in the societal heirarchy normally leads to alot of death.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 7:50 am to fareplay
Yes.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 7:52 am to WeagleEagle
quote:Only if you take standard deduction. If you itemize, gifts to a Church should lower your taxable income.
I have already paid taxes on the money I tithe.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 7:52 am to fareplay
yes
Posted on 5/16/23 at 7:53 am to Supravol22
How much untaxed property do you think churches own in the US?
Posted on 5/16/23 at 7:55 am to Supravol22
people that favor taxing the churches are probably good with forgiving student loans.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 7:59 am to Trevaylin
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housing allowance is taxed, currently
The self employment / employees half of employment tax is still collected on housing allowance.
Just not income.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:01 am to texas tortilla
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people that favor taxing the churches are probably good with forgiving student loans.
Apples and oranges.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:02 am to Supravol22
Bunch of commies in this thread
Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:07 am to OleVaught14
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Yes, and put the money towards helping kids effected by sexual abuse, physical abuse, etc...
affected
Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:08 am to TCO
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A housing allowance can be excluded from a ministers personal tax return.
It is not excluded from self-employment tax.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:10 am to El Segundo Guy
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For instance, someone wills a pos house to a church. The church decides to rent it to a needy family for a little discount.
You sound a bit like you’re against a church helping someone with their housing in this post.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:11 am to Diamondawg
quote:Its not about raising revenue. It’s about people hating religion. Bigotry is new hip thing.
Seems to me it would be better to get those 50% that pay no income tax to do so. Tax revenue from taxing churches would be miniscule compared to getting the other 50% paying taxes.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:13 am to Sammobile
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Your hate has you obsessed.
Well now they get lower mortgage interest rates on shitty credit while we all pay higher rates for having good credit.
Your ignorance has you obsessed.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:14 am to fareplay
Why shouldn’t they be taxed for the same things other property owners/utility users/businesses are?
I’m not in favor of property tax exemptions for any entity that owns property. It should be applied across the board, or not at all.
I’m not in favor of property tax exemptions for any entity that owns property. It should be applied across the board, or not at all.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 8:25 am
Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:16 am to dchog
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In fiscal year 2018, Goodwill organizations generated a total of $6.1 billion in revenue, of which $5.27 billion was spent on charitable services, and $646 million was spent on salaries and other operating expenses. Services constituted 89 percent of expenses.[8] In 2015, the group served more than 37 million people, with more than 312,000 people placed into employment.[9]"
-wiki
Honestly, does anything stick out about Goodwill? $646M for salaries and other operating expenses sounds pretty reasonable for an organization that big.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 8:24 am
Posted on 5/16/23 at 8:17 am to fareplay
Don't forget mosques, synagogues, and other religions you bigot.
Generally I would say no because we as a people are already over taxed. The only version I could somewhat support is if the place of worship pulled in more than 1 million annually. Even that is a slippery slope because the government always comes for more. I'm fine with taxing the Joel Osteen and other mega churches that are barely even Christianity. Catholic church also runs like a business. But the little one off small churches should not be touched. They barely survive as it is.
Generally I would say no because we as a people are already over taxed. The only version I could somewhat support is if the place of worship pulled in more than 1 million annually. Even that is a slippery slope because the government always comes for more. I'm fine with taxing the Joel Osteen and other mega churches that are barely even Christianity. Catholic church also runs like a business. But the little one off small churches should not be touched. They barely survive as it is.
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