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Posted on 8/3/17 at 3:30 pm to Parmen
Vladimir Putin's wife gives birth during a UN meeting in New York. Little Vlad is an American.
Mexican chick gets caught at the border and thrown in a holding cell, where she pops out a little juan. He is an American.
Chinese chick gives birth in LAX on a layover. Boom, American.
These are all bullshite scenarios that should not be legal.
Just the fact that birthing tourism is a thing should enrage people. Anchor babies are an abomination.
Mexican chick gets caught at the border and thrown in a holding cell, where she pops out a little juan. He is an American.
Chinese chick gives birth in LAX on a layover. Boom, American.
These are all bullshite scenarios that should not be legal.
Just the fact that birthing tourism is a thing should enrage people. Anchor babies are an abomination.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 3:38 pm to Oluja Ispred
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We just need to get more conservative judges like Gorsuch. We get enough conservatives on the court and birthright citizenship goes bye bye.
I'm not sure how the court can interrupt this in any other way:
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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Going to need a repeal.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 3:40 pm to Parmen
To categorically grant citizenship on birth alone should be revised. I'm sure there are some specific circumstances that being born here should entitle one to citizenship and those should be carved out, and retained. But generally, birth alone should not automatically grant citizenship.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 3:56 pm to Parmen
Yes time to stop being the world's patsy
And perhaps some actual citizens might be born in parkland
And perhaps some actual citizens might be born in parkland
Posted on 8/3/17 at 3:59 pm to Parmen
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Should the US abolish birthright citizenship?
Of course, duh!
Posted on 8/3/17 at 4:01 pm to Parmen
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Yes. We're the only first world country that does this.
Actually Canada is the only other first world country that does it like America does, but that's hardly an example to follow.
Not entirely. In Britain, children born to foreigners who legally reside there are British citizens.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 4:21 pm to northshorebamaman
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and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
I'm no Constitutional scholar, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn last night, but this phrase has always been the sticking point. Are people here illegally really "subject to the jurisdiction thereof"?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 4:46 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Not entirely. In Britain, children born to foreigners who legally reside there are British citizens.
Yeah that's a big difference from what you said against Juan and Juanita crashing a boat from Cuba to Puerto Rico, giving birth to Juan Jr and Juan Jr getting citizenship. The parents aren't here legally.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 5:12 pm to Parmen
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Yeah that's a big difference from what you said
I didn't say anything about that, pal.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 5:19 pm to Parmen
I believe that if a person who is here illegally has a baby in the US that baby shouldn't be a citizen. It should be a citizen of whatever country it's parents are a citizen of
Posted on 8/3/17 at 5:21 pm to udtiger
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Actually, it should be challenged constitutionally.
It's close to a sure loss.
The Citizenship Clause played an extremely important role after the Civil War but, as someone already mention, that reason is now moot. It's probably best to get rid of it but it will take another amendment.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 5:43 pm to Parmen
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crashing a boat from Cuba to Puerto Rico, giving birth to Juan J
Florida is closer. And hip hop hooray for US citizenships for those born en el borinquen.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 5:46 pm to Parmen
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If the US for instance adopted such a measure, the only option for anchor babies would be for an illegal immigrant to procreate with an American citizen.
It should have always been this way.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:17 am to Parmen
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You look at countries like United Kingdom, France, and Germany. Just being born in that country isn't good enough. In addition to being born in that country, one of your parents has to also already be a citizen of that country at the time of your birth. If the US for instance adopted such a measure
So you don't believe in American Exceptionalism? Let's adopt theses countries gun control , healthcare , death penalty ,etc....policies as well?
Your(Conservatives) antipathy towards minorities seems to cause one to turn your backs on our Exceptionalism in this case.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:20 am to Parmen
It was brought about to give slaves citizenship in the U.S. after the civil war..and it was the right thing to do, but we really need to abolish the amendment cause our friends to the south are really abusing it.
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