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re: Some thoughts on IQ
Posted on 8/3/25 at 5:35 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 8/3/25 at 5:35 pm to NC_Tigah
Symbolic logic is very much formula based and would not be outside the abilities of someone who teaches algebra or trigonometry. Creating well formed arguments is easier for many to understand than pure math.
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 5:38 pm to NC_Tigah
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In performance improvement there must be a feedback loop. What is the basis for comparative feedback if not standardized testing?
We are an innovative species. I’m sure we could think of something.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 5:40 pm to anc
I do not believe that everyone deserves an equal vote. You have folks voting based off of billboards and 30 second commercials.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 5:48 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Certainly we could!
I’m sure we could think of something.
Like, for example, the "War on Poverty"?????
Posted on 8/3/25 at 5:48 pm to dukkbill
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Nevertheless, we still need: (a) measured to gauge assurance of learning;
Is your belief leasrning is only measured once a year via a standardized test?
quote:financial resources? Should high performing schools get rewarded with more money or should low performing schools be supported with more financial resources?
measures that help us decide how to allocate our resources.
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As blunt an instrument as these tests may be, we don’t have an implementable alternative that is feasible and being proposed.
Coincidentally , critical thinking, creativity, and civic education have all diminished since the standardized testing mandate in American public schools. Are spreadsheets worth dumbing our kids down?
This post was edited on 8/3/25 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 8/3/25 at 5:54 pm to anc
So the real issue is that democrats are on the low side of the iq distribution and Kamala is a great example of a low iq person very high in the government structure.
The easiest way to fix this is to only allow property ( real estate) owners to vote. No testing is needed The lowest rung of iq is filtered out of the vote
The easiest way to fix this is to only allow property ( real estate) owners to vote. No testing is needed The lowest rung of iq is filtered out of the vote
Posted on 8/3/25 at 5:58 pm to NC_Tigah
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Like, for example, the "War on Poverty"?????
Or the airplane, cotton gin, light bulb, etc.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:00 pm to Zgeo
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So the real issue is that democrats are on the low side of the iq distribution and Kamala is a great example of a low iq person very high in the government structure.
Is there any actual evidence to support any of these claims?
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The easiest way to fix this is to only allow property ( real estate) owners to vote
How many votes per piece of property owned? Why not just make it a net worth requirement and only allow wealthy people to vote?
This post was edited on 8/3/25 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:01 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Again, do you want a system in which Louisiana kids have no national comparator? Really???
Coincidentally , critical thinking, creativity, and civic education have all diminished since the standardized testing mandate in American public schools. Are spreadsheets worth dumbing our kids down?
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:01 pm to 4cubbies
quote:How do "we" help those that don't want to help themselves?
4cubbies
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:04 pm to NC_Tigah
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Again, do you want a system in which Louisiana kids have no national comparator? Really???
Considering education has only gotten worse since we’ve been comparing… I would rather critical thinking and creativity be emphasized than know how my kids compare to random kids in Vermont, New Mexico or Alaska.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:06 pm to 4cubbies
quote:If you get a net payment from other taxpayers at the end of the year, you are a teat suckler and should not get to vote. Voting should be reserved for those that have skin in the game.
Why not just make it a net worth requirement and only allow wealthy people to vote?
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:08 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Where's the curriculum and mechanism for PI feedback?
Considering education has only gotten worse since we’ve been comparing… I would rather critical thinking and creativity be emphasized than know how my kids compare to random kids in Vermont, New Mexico or Alaska.
This post was edited on 8/4/25 at 5:51 am
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:11 pm to 4cubbies
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We are an innovative species. I’m sure we could think of something.
I will note our largest LLMs are in the range of 1*10^12 parameters, and needs Gigawatts of power.
The Human Brain has 1*10^15 Neurons and runs on 20 watts.
When we look to biomimicry, it's amazing how far we have to go with from a hardware perspective.
Not just that but all LLMs share the same transformer architecture, there is a known problem how LLMs guess 27 mostly, some guess 37 and Grok guesses 42 then 27 (cause funnies) when asked to pick a number between 1 and 50.
It's fundamentally hard for me to consider the human brain limited at birth considering how our hardware is massively overpowered for what we do.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:14 pm to NC_Tigah
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NC_Tigah
Did you attend public schools? Do you feel you received an inferior education because you didn’t take a standardized test every year starting in third grade?
ETA: I never took standardized tests until the ACT in 7th and 11th grades and I’m satisfied with the quality of education I received.
This post was edited on 8/3/25 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:16 pm to RollTide4547
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If you get a net payment from other taxpayers at the end of the year, you are a teat suckler and should not get to vote. Voting should be reserved for those that have skin in the game.
Poor people aren’t impacted by laws in your country?
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:22 pm to 4cubbies
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Poor people aren’t impacted by laws in your country?
Poor people shouldn’t be allowed to vote for scumbags who promise to steal more money from people who actually earn it. I think it was Margaret Thatcher who said that we will eventually run out of other people‘s money to redistribute.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:45 pm to 4cubbies
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Considering education has only gotten worse since we’ve been comparing… I would rather critical thinking and creativity be emphasized than know how my kids compare to random kids in Vermont, New Mexico or Alaska.
What parts have gotten worse nation wide?
Covid messed many things up, most children are significantly behind still.
It seems China fell 130+ Points in PISA while the US fell only 20 since 2018.
This post was edited on 8/3/25 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 8/3/25 at 7:03 pm to 4cubbies
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Is your belief leasrning is only measured once a year via a standardized test?
I didnt go to Louisiana schools or have any large nexus to Louisiana schools so I think you are speaking to something very specific that is beyond our current conversation but
(1) No, Indeed, post secondary AoL is on much broader cycles like 6 or 4 years
(2) most knowledge base “testing” doesn’t measure what we need for AoL. They just measure memory. We use a European based model on certification test (eg bar exams) that tests larger caches of memory over longer times. Some schools have done this as well, much to student chagrin. Standardized tests tend to use a medium term model. We get large enough catalogs of information that we test more than short term memory
Today’s student can get paralyzed if you don’t give the a “study guide” which translates to “ two pages to memorize. “ The unintended consequence is that we have teachers still teach to this model for tests. Stop teaching curriculum and try to teach the test. That’s suboptimal but better than no measure at all
We can promote students through school, but we need a measure to see if Janice’s students are learning the same as Phil’s students or is Phil assing-off and just promoting kids. Likewise, we need to make sure that PS101 doesn’t have an administrator that is mailing it in compared to pS102
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… financial resources
All resources are not financial, but we could use financial as a single scalar for the conversation. If do, then yes. If ps 101 needs 3 Gifted teachers and 2 special ed teachers and ps 101 doesn’t need any that’s what we should provide. To anticipate your next question, then yes also, there are measures that indicate we need to make personnel changes
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Are spreadsheets worth dumbing our kids down?
That’s rhetorical, and not uniformly true. The schools where I have a nexus don’t have this attribute. I’d have to know which measures you think show a dumbing down, but on some measures it’s a selection phenomenon. We test more where in the past we selected the population prior to testing. For instance, far more people take entrance exams now than in the past
Posted on 8/3/25 at 7:07 pm to Narax
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will note our largest LLMs are in the range of 1*10^12 parameters, and needs Gigawatts of power. The Human Brain has 1*10^15 Neurons and runs on 20 watts.
Let’s get Tim the tool man Taylor to overclock that system
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some guess 37
Isn’t that because it’s the first irregular prime with an index of 1?
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