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re: Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s congressional map with just one majority-Black district
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:49 am to kingbob
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:49 am to kingbob
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You have to gerrymander congressional districts to carve out minority majority seats.
This is clearly unconstitutional. Whatever rationale you use to justify it is wrong.
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:51 am to Timeoday
Let them have their black district and black representatives..
I'm sure the area would just thrive....
I'm sure the area would just thrive....
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:51 am to N.O. via West-Cal
The worst part of this new congressional map is District 1.
Mobile and Baldwin County should be their own district. Someone from Dothan doesn't need to be making decisions for Mobile and vice versa. The Gulf Coast and Wiregrass are two totally different parts of the state. Ridiculous.
Mobile and Baldwin County should be their own district. Someone from Dothan doesn't need to be making decisions for Mobile and vice versa. The Gulf Coast and Wiregrass are two totally different parts of the state. Ridiculous.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:52 am to i am dan
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I'm sure the area would just thrive....
As long as we keep subsidizing them.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:52 am to Ribbed
Agreed. The court left open in its ruling for just such a challenge.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:56 am to Timeoday
People in the minority can win. Just look at Miss Zimbabwe.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:58 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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But the court did leave open future challenges to the law, with Kavanaugh writing in a separate opinion that his vote did not rule out challenges to Section 2 based on whether there is a time when the 1965 law’s authorization of considering race in redistricting is no longer justified."
With Bruen, the text, history, and tradition test now governs laws restricting the 2A right to keep and bear arms. Might Bruen have set a precedent for future SCOTUS rulings that all laws require the text, history, and tradition test?
Let's pray it does!!
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:03 am to kingbob
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Louisiana should be VERY concerned by this ruling. I’m not sure how we physically can draw a map with two minority majority districts, but it will likely be required that we find a way to do so based on this ruling.
Here are some of the proposals from the Legislature that included 2 black majority districts.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:36 am to Ribbed
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This is clearly unconstitutional. Whatever rationale you use to justify it is wrong.
The 14th and 15th Amendments allowed Congress to pass the Voting rights act of 1965. The VRA was intended to enforce the 15th Amendment.
In reality, though, the purpose of these gerrymandered districts are political not racial. The black communities are not being divided because they are black; it is because they vote so overwhelmingly Democratic.
I mean, there are probably some racist aspects, and one could argue the reason they vote Democratic is due to past racism. But if the Black community was not such a Democratic stronghold then race would not be an issue with districting.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:58 am to Ribbed
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As long as we keep subsidizing them.
That doesn't even help. Can't give them enough money to make it work.
Businesses don't want to move into those areas because they know exactly how it would turn out.
Be better. Your areas will be better too. Same with white trashy areas.
All about income and education levels.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:07 pm to Dday63
Gerrymandering violates both the 14th and 15th amendments. It is unconstitutional and despicable and incentivizes empoverishing blacks for political gain. Explain it or justify it however you want, it is immoral, unethical, and unconstitutional.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:15 pm to thejuiceisloose
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Ask the Alabama legislature why they drew the maps with the intent for black voters to have as little impact as possible
Ask the black voters why they'll only vote for a moron like Terri Sewell? Look at the design of her district.Its insane.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:18 pm to dakarx
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Only 1 black district out of how many?
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:19 pm to Tigerhalen
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This post was edited on 10/11/23 at 11:01 am
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:29 pm to Ribbed
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Gerrymandering violates both the 14th and 15th amendments.
We'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm anti-gerrymandering, but placed in historical context I'll side with SCOTUS on this one.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:31 pm to Dday63
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I'm anti-gerrymandering, but placed in historical context I'll side with SCOTUS on this one.
The people who admit it's wrong but whatever? How is that working out? Feeling that racial harmony?
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:44 pm to I-59 Tiger
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Look at the design of her district.Its insane
You know who drew that district? The district drawing is an attempt to get as many AA votes in a district to make the other districts easy GOP victories
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:48 pm to thejuiceisloose
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The district drawing is an attempt to get as many AA votes in a district to make the other districts easy GOP victories
I could swear it was once considered wrong to divide people up by the color of their skin. Who said that? Ghandi? No... Somebody...
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:52 pm to Ribbed
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I could swear it was once considered wrong to divide people up by the color of their skin. Who said that? Ghandi? No... Somebody...
The person holding the pen (Alabama legis) is clearly doing what you're criticizing. They can't even win with a conservative leaning Supreme Court
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:53 pm to Ribbed
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The people who admit it's wrong but whatever? How is that working out? Feeling that racial harmony?
Can't let it go, huh? I'm opposed to gerrymandering for political purposes. Just draw up geographical lines based on population and let the chips fall where they may.
Unfortunately, Alabama used to be 100% Democratic party, so they drew up districts to silence black votes. THAT clearly violated the 15th Amendment. The Voting Rights Act was intended to put a stop to that
So, yeah, I'm anti-gerrymandering, but this is where we are. All I said was I believe the Voting Rights Act and it's application here are Constitutional.
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