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re: Texas Public Education Issue
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:57 am to Pvt Hudson
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:57 am to Pvt Hudson
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There are teachers that are barely competent. There are layers of admins that “evaluate” the process. Teaching, to some extent, has become a profession people “settle” for.
Get rid of the teacher's unions and let teachers be evaluated on how good of a job they do.
Don't make it impossible to fire bad teachers.
This is a direct result of Democrat policies.
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:09 am to CastleBravo
The grading of public teachers and students on test are a joke now in public schools and continues to get worse.
Many texans dont have kids any more or at all in school and pay thousands to the school district as they continue to build new parking lots, new stadiums, additions to schools etc.
It needs to be changed.
I would rather see ISD property tax portion cut in half, at least, and then if you send your kids to public schools, you pay a fee to the school that makes up the difference. Yes sounds like paying for private school, but there is always a cost somewhere. Too many free loaders renting temporarily to send their kids to good districts for free.
Why make residents who have nothing to do with the school system continue to pay for others?
Many texans dont have kids any more or at all in school and pay thousands to the school district as they continue to build new parking lots, new stadiums, additions to schools etc.
It needs to be changed.
I would rather see ISD property tax portion cut in half, at least, and then if you send your kids to public schools, you pay a fee to the school that makes up the difference. Yes sounds like paying for private school, but there is always a cost somewhere. Too many free loaders renting temporarily to send their kids to good districts for free.
Why make residents who have nothing to do with the school system continue to pay for others?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:46 pm to AGGIES
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People generally like property values to rise, so they can sell their homes for more than they bought them for.
If your issue is with the bond debt, then convince voters to not pass the bonds.
God you're dense. There's a difference between what you can sell the property for, and what the assessed value is. As Fort Bend CAD has told me, to my face, "market value is not indicative of assessed value."
When I get mailed a tax notice that clearly lays out they expect to value my home at 40% higher than what it is today, that just means I will pay nearly 40% more in property taxes four years from now (10% max increase per year). You take a baseball bat to the sack every year until you sell the house. At least DFW doesn't have MUDs, so they have gleaming athletic complexes in every suburb for their ~2%, and in Houston we get jack shite for 3.5%. Oh, they'll build cricket fields in Sugarland. Wee.
It is precisely stupid voters like you that the state had to start putting "THIS IS A TAX INCREASE" on bond issues that espouse "your rate will stay the same." You still vote for this shite.
frick dem kids (I have 2 in school.)
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:03 pm to LemmyLives
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If ISDs like Lamar weren't drowning in bond debt, maybe voters wouldn't be pushing for this, because one billion dollar bond after another keeps getting passed. Katy and Lamar love to bitch about "growth" but completely ignore that an additional 1,000 homes on formerly unimproved land bring the ISD close to ten million dollars in revenue a year to go with those additional kids.
I agree that the bonds are out of control and vote them down in my district as well. Unfortunately the screwy way that Texas school finance is set up, that $10 million in additional school taxes those new homes are bringing in can't actually go to building new schools to put those kids in. They can go to Maintenance and Operations (salaries, utilities, transportation, etc) or Interest & Sinking (debt payments for bonds) but voters have to pass bonds to fund new capital expenditures. And if your district starts bringing in TOO MUCH money in ISD taxes, don't think that will solve your problems either. No, in that case you will become a "recapture district" and have to send money to the state to be "redistributed" to other districts through the most opaque slush fund system.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:17 pm to LemmyLives
But your home will be on the market for much longer and without as many offers if the school is a trainwreck. That’s what I was talking about with regards to values rising.
You’re so quick to call other people dense. But No, I don’t have those two things conflated.
Assessed value is usually determined at sale, resets the baseline. And then there are annual increases. Market value should exceed assessed value.
And most people protest to get the assessment and tax liability reduced. Do you not protest your Taxes?
You’re so quick to call other people dense. But No, I don’t have those two things conflated.
Assessed value is usually determined at sale, resets the baseline. And then there are annual increases. Market value should exceed assessed value.
And most people protest to get the assessment and tax liability reduced. Do you not protest your Taxes?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:21 pm to AGGIES
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Some are very bad
Few schools are bad, that's my point. Most are amazing structures hence, we are not getting what we are paying for in return for our taxes in education.
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They’ve essentially been run into the ground so that you will get raped on private school tuition.
Dallas Christian was the best education I could pay for my kid. 16 hours of College credit and a 28k per year scholly to Okie State Spears School of Bidness.
My kid was flunking at Heath high school because of the fricked up curriculum and, taking classes with kids 3 years older and they didn't give a frick.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:24 pm to FATBOY TIGER
That’s awesome news. Glad to hear it. I don’t begrudge if you can afford the tuition. Not at all.
But if public schools aren’t a viable alternative, then Dallas Christian HS is going to cost a hell of a lot more in the future.
But if public schools aren’t a viable alternative, then Dallas Christian HS is going to cost a hell of a lot more in the future.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:26 pm to AGGIES
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Speaking of education problems in America. Public schools in Texas could be starved of tax revenues and just wither on the vine.
Gov. Abbott is now proposing that voters should have the power to decide whether to eliminate property taxes that fund public schools.
Why can't we get rid of the property tax and pass a school tax? Schools still get funded, and people don't have to rent their property from the government. And people in each school district can decide how much in taxes they want to pay based on their local conditions.
This seems like a very simple and effective plan to me.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:31 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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Schools still get funded,
The math would have to work. But yeah, thats the idea. I saw someone mention something that resembled exemptions if you don’t have children. Or at least that was my interpretation.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:31 pm to AGGIES
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But if public schools aren’t a viable alternative, then Dallas Christian HS is going to cost a hell of a lot more in the future.
If demand increases, supply will as well, keeping prices stable. And no, it's not going to take five years for the market to respond. There's plenty of available real estate to rent.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:38 pm to LemmyLives
Let’s see how this economy does. If half your populace can’t afford a basic HS education that could be a problem.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:46 pm to AGGIES
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Also, home values are also driven by proximity to strong public schools. If the elementary school goes down the drain, then so does your home equity.
Who is down voting this?
We moved to the woodlands for the schools and the home values here have almost doubled in the short time we have been here. It’s totally the driving force behind it.
Also for those saying public education isn’t important, it’s the only way to break the cycle and have more functioning members of society. It’s being mismanaged but it’s 100% worth an investment, the better the schools the less people that end up on lifelong government assistance
Posted on 11/13/25 at 2:06 pm to Pvt Hudson
quote:It's in the private sector, too. IBM just reduced staff in their bands 9 & 10. Many of these were earning $250k-$400k, but ZERO VPs got the axe. IBM loves their VPs. It's like tenure at a college. They are overloaded with VPs making decisions that have no clue about the products, process, checks and balances in implementation of projects and every win or technical bulletin is written or earned by someone else, but they'll take the credit for it.
The efficiency is there if they are forced to look for it. But, of course, they will choose to harm the children to protect the bureaucracy.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 2:50 pm to AGGIES
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If half your populace can’t afford a basic HS education
You keep just making stuff up.
What's your basis for this? Public education is never going away, it can't.
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Sec. 1. SUPPORT AND MAINTENANCE OF SYSTEM OF PUBLIC FREE SCHOOLS. A general diffusion of knowledge being essential to the preservation of the liberties and rights of the people, it shall be the duty of the Legislature of the State to establish and make suitable provision for the support and maintenance of an efficient system of public free schools.
You know what that is? The Texas Constitution, Article 7.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 2:51 pm to HubbaBubba
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IBM just reduced staff in their bands 9 & 10. Many of these were earning $250k-$400k
shite, I was underpaid as a B10!
Posted on 11/13/25 at 2:58 pm to AGGIES
Public schools would not be in this position IF:
- They didn't raise taxes every single year
- They didn't hire and increase administrative staffing, often 3 people doing the job of one
- They didn't trans our kids
- They didn't provide shitty educations
- They didn't keep pushing traditions we valued, out. Like prayer. Like the Bible (which is entirely relevant to understanding western civilization)
- They didn't try to turn our kids into commies
- They didn't act like the Catholic Church in the 70s/80s/90s where they would cover-up for sex offenders by transferring them to a different district
Government schooling needs to die. It can possibly be reborn again, but why?
Why would I want a DMV-caliber of education for my future kids?
- They didn't raise taxes every single year
- They didn't hire and increase administrative staffing, often 3 people doing the job of one
- They didn't trans our kids
- They didn't provide shitty educations
- They didn't keep pushing traditions we valued, out. Like prayer. Like the Bible (which is entirely relevant to understanding western civilization)
- They didn't try to turn our kids into commies
- They didn't act like the Catholic Church in the 70s/80s/90s where they would cover-up for sex offenders by transferring them to a different district
Government schooling needs to die. It can possibly be reborn again, but why?
Why would I want a DMV-caliber of education for my future kids?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 3:02 pm to LemmyLives
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You know what that is? The Texas Constitution, Article 7.
Hate to break it to you, but sometimes govt. doesn’t fulfill its duties. Abbott sounds like he’s not interested in maintaining it.
Despite what is in the text.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 3:04 pm to LSUGrad2024
Another H1-B supporter…
Posted on 11/13/25 at 3:12 pm to AGGIES
Again, you're making stuff up with no evidence. Where did the bad man on wheels touch you?
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And so the big one is giving voters the ability to actually abolish property taxes from school districts. That would have to come via constitutional amendment, which means the Legislature would have to put it on a statewide ballot, and a vote of the people would have to occur. But as you know, that would be devastating, some public school advocates and school district folks say, because they would have to figure out where to make up that funding.
He also is advocating tight caps on appraisals and the ability of voters to actually have a referendum to abolish or lower property tax rates. So it’s a pretty aggressive plan that he has.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 3:46 pm to LemmyLives
I’m not making up anything. If it doesn’t pass then it’s a moot point.
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