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Posted on 11/15/24 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by Deuces
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 8:14 pm to
The founding fathers thought God should be mentioned in our society.

That’s why they mentioned him in the constitution so much and in their letters.

They only made the separation of state and religion because they didn’t want the official status of our government to be a theocracy
Posted by Shorty_price
Member since Oct 2018
396 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 8:32 pm to
You need to go back and read up on the founders and their intentions regarding the 1st amendment and get back to us. Educate yourself.
Posted by Zoomie3390
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 8:47 pm to
Fox News is a private company- not a state run news outlet
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5870 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 9:26 pm to
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Fox News is a private company- not a state run news outlet


Who advertises on Fox News? Who funds the organizations that advertises on this media outlet? Do the math.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19745 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 9:52 pm to
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we still have separation of church and state


What part of the Constitution says this?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
19283 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 10:39 pm to
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Or you could maybe just teach kids to think for themselves and be responsible members of society Instead of spending their time on 4chan or wall street bets - shrug ????? No church of mine teaches them to do that


Relax Suzy, your username is Zoomie.
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1783 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 10:43 pm to
Founding fathers didn’t say separation of church and state
They did however establish freedom of religion
Posted by Candyman
Member since Sep 2017
641 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 11:26 pm to
Given the current state of America, I would say the constitution is null and void. The courts have passed laws that are way out of bounds from being constitutional. The deep state has also perverted our constitutional republic, and now they are indoctrinateing children with all sorts of insane agendas in the school system. Get your head out of your arse. There are far more important things to worry about than the ten commandments.

Jeff Landry is only doing this to create controversy, and pander to rural voters. This is called grandstanding and its done for show.
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 11:29 pm
Posted by Candyman
Member since Sep 2017
641 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 11:32 pm to
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They only made the separation of state and religion because they didn’t want the official status of our government to be a theocracy


Yes, they opposed the "Holy Roman Empire" which was run by the Catholic church. They were staunchly anti Catholic.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21322 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 11:47 pm to
If we are being honest here, do you really want the state and the teachers union having a hand in teaching a Bible related curriculum? They’ve already bastardized other subjects. Why would this be any different?
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 4:29 am to
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Muslims are allowed to pray in schools although Christians are not.


Can you cite a specific case of any Christian not being allowed to pray in school?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
22427 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 5:18 am to
Seperation of church and state has nothing to do with Bibles in school. Do some research.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
24329 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 6:53 am to
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we still have separation of church and state


That separation was the state staying out of religion, not religion staying out of state affairs. Read the darn letter.


Posted by dek81572
Bossier City
Member since Apr 2012
1430 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 7:00 am to
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The founding fathers were right and is still true today


You're right, here's what one of our founding fathers, John Adam's had to say about this, “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5870 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 7:11 pm to
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Fox News is a private company- not a state run news outlet


You must of missed the part about Fox News biggest advertisers being big pharma. Big pharma controls the government. Wise up and understand the money and where it comes from.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
28817 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 7:15 pm to
We Spoke Loudly

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America”
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
114018 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 7:21 pm to
You are a legit retard.

They didn't want a Church of England equivalent in the USA.

They had no intention of preventing individual states' support of churches. Some did so well into the 1830s.

The modern concept of "separation of church and state" is ahistorical.
This post was edited on 11/16/24 at 7:23 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46303 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 7:45 pm to
You know that the Bible was a staple in schools until the early 1900’s?

The founders did not believe that the government should be secular but that the federal government should not dictate what citizens must believe. State governments actually had state-sponsored religion baked into their constitutions, too.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 9:02 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33818 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 9:37 pm to
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separation of church and state

Not in the Constitution, nor the Declaration of Independence, so they obviously didnt want this to be the rule
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also freedom from religion

Yeah, neither document says this either
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If I wanted my son or daughter to learn about the Bible

Then you would have had to home school them during the time from the first school being formed all the way past the forming of our country

* The very first school in America was founded by Rev John Cotton
* The first publicly funded school called for the teaching of Latin, Greek, and Hebrew. because the Vulgate was written in Latin, the OT in Hebrew, and the NT in Greek
* Harvard, Princeton, and Yale were all formed as seminaries. Ya know where they teach the Bible. Plus, Brown was founded by Baptists, Columbia by the Church of England, Penn by the Methodists, and Dartmouth by Calvinists

The Founding fathers are doing this about your post


Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
19283 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 9:39 pm to
There’s only one amendment that really matters.
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