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re: The Horseshoe Theory
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:40 am to jbraua
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:40 am to jbraua
I’ve seen this shown different ways and have seen many scholars depict communism as being left and nazism/fascism being right. It’s why the left/right scale is flawed as those 2 have way more in common than is displayed by being on supposed opposite ends of the political spectrum. Their Governmental structure and how they achieved their goals was almost identical. The only real difference was in their economic structure where the nazis rejected social programs whereas Marxist is all about state sponsored social welfare. Nazis were more inclined to a labor structure where people were expected to work. Both are very flawed ideologies and exist only to maintain the highest level of control for the elite.
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Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:41 am to Mo Jeaux
Than who? Me? Either tell me why I’m wrong in your own words or take your dumb arse back to the Tiger Rant
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:45 am to Forever
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Than who? Me?
Yes.
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Either tell me why I’m wrong in your own words or take your dumb arse back to the Tiger Rant
What's the reason for the anger when challenged on your beliefs?
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:45 am to grantbw
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Both are very flawed ideologies and exist only to maintain the highest level of control for the elite.
One may say the same for our current system of capitalism.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:47 am to jbraua
I love how the left is cute and cuddly and friendly right up until you get to the red fist and then the sickle and the hammer.
Wolves dressed as lambs
Wolves dressed as lambs
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 10:58 am
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:48 am to jbraua
Marxism is not altruistic; charity is.
Forced confiscation and redistribution of wealth will never be a virtue.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:49 am to Mo Jeaux
They may, but our capitalism is the only system in history that has a proven Track record of actually creating wealth for people who never had it before and allowing opportunities for the same groups who were truly oppressed in nazi and communist regimes to become incredibly wealthy. It’s not a perfect system, but no other system even allows for any vertical movement.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:49 am to jbraua
The Obama O needs to push up theee notches
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:50 am to saints5021
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NAZIs are literally Socialists. It is in their fricking name.
By this logic Antifa is against fascism because it’s in their name. Nazis weren’t socialist. Socialism and communism is the destruction of all hierarchies so that everyone is equal. Fascism is the rigid entrenchment and enforcement of hierarchies for the betterment of the state. Fascism allows for “private” companies, but they just just work for the betterment of the state.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:51 am to TrueTiger
i dont know about how horseshoes related to politics..
..but i do know throwing commies from helicopters has proven to be an effective way to fix political issues.
..but i do know throwing commies from helicopters has proven to be an effective way to fix political issues.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:52 am to Lynxrufus2012
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Disagree with me labeling Nazi's as socialists?
Yes. They were rigid authoritarians just like communist but in Germany there were still companies and individuals were allowed to get rich, even if they weren’t party officials.
There were no companies in communist Russia.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:52 am to jbraua
I have always rejected the circle (didn't know they called it a horseshoe these days.
Political ideology is a straight line based on govt control v. individual freedom.
The extreme left is communism (now called the US Democrat party), monarchy, dictatorships, etc.
On the extreme right is anarchy. The rioters are not anarchists. They're communists. Anarchy = the
American pioneers who traveled west.
There was no law. Anarchy =/= Chaos.
Political ideology is a straight line based on govt control v. individual freedom.
The extreme left is communism (now called the US Democrat party), monarchy, dictatorships, etc.
On the extreme right is anarchy. The rioters are not anarchists. They're communists. Anarchy = the
American pioneers who traveled west.
There was no law. Anarchy =/= Chaos.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:54 am to Mo Jeaux
Found the dumbfrick
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:55 am to Zach
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Political ideology is a straight line based on govt control v. individual freedom.
This is a really simplified way to view an extremely complex subject. Maybe the ideology on politics freedom is a straight line, but overall politics ideology is much more complex.
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 11:00 am
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:55 am to Zach
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The extreme left is communism (now called the US Democrat party), monarchy, dictatorships, etc.
Interesting concept, but based on our current usage of "left" and "right", it seems odd to refer to monarchy and certain dictatorships as being on the "left".
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:56 am to Madking
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Found the dumbfrick
Why am I a dumbfrick?
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:56 am to Lynxrufus2012
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Should really be a circle.
This.
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Nazi's and Commies are both socialists and hate God and freedom.
Both sides of the same authoritarian coin.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:57 am to jbraua
Need a translator/decoder ring to know what the hell this is trying to say.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:57 am to jbraua
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A lot to dissect on this graphic.
I am not sure I agree with everything represented here, but I do tend to think people on the fringes have a lot more in common with each other than they do with centrists.
What says the poliboard?
John Adams knew what makes America like no other country and he knew what was required to keep America like no other country.
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Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:57 am to Mo Jeaux
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One may say the same for our current system of capitalism.
One may say that, but that one is completely wrong. Capitalism allows new ideas to flourish and better ideas to triumph. Centrally controlled authoritarian governments do not allow this.
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