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re: The 'I supported Trump but..' talking point
Posted on 3/19/23 at 10:32 pm to JColtF
Posted on 3/19/23 at 10:32 pm to JColtF
I supported Trump but...
- He empowered Fauci
- He empowered Chris Wray
- He empowered son-in-law Kushner (Soros stooge)
- He empowered Steve Mnuchin (Soros Stooge)
- He didn't build the wall
- He didn't write up a blanket pardon for J6 (he pardoned a democrat mega-donor instead)
- He fired Gen Michael Flynn
- He forced Steve Bannon out
- He didn't build the wall (the wall is currently rusting away in a yard)
- He supported Mitt Romney
- He supported Mitt Romneys niece
- He supported McCain's reelection
- He still supports Lindsey Graham
- He funded Sanctuary cities
- He funded the Platinum Plan
- He did nothing to ban birthright citizenship
- He was soft on the George Floyd riots
- 15 days to slow the spread
- Called out Governors who dropped covid restrictions
- Funded the "vaccine"
- and more and more
- He empowered Fauci
- He empowered Chris Wray
- He empowered son-in-law Kushner (Soros stooge)
- He empowered Steve Mnuchin (Soros Stooge)
- He didn't build the wall
- He didn't write up a blanket pardon for J6 (he pardoned a democrat mega-donor instead)
- He fired Gen Michael Flynn
- He forced Steve Bannon out
- He didn't build the wall (the wall is currently rusting away in a yard)
- He supported Mitt Romney
- He supported Mitt Romneys niece
- He supported McCain's reelection
- He still supports Lindsey Graham
- He funded Sanctuary cities
- He funded the Platinum Plan
- He did nothing to ban birthright citizenship
- He was soft on the George Floyd riots
- 15 days to slow the spread
- Called out Governors who dropped covid restrictions
- Funded the "vaccine"
- and more and more
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 10:34 pm
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 10:38 pm to AU86
quote:Agreed. Election fraud coupled with morons with a vote is hard to overcome. Then throw in RINO, career politicians that did little to support Republican candidates and we get what we got.
I agree with you 100%. But you could have said the same regarding the midterms. That election should have been a Red tsunami.
Let me ask you this. Do you actually know a person who defends Biden, his record, and his administration? At this point, if Biden is reelected, it will not be because more people voted for him......just like the last time.
Posted on 3/19/23 at 10:38 pm to shoelessjoe
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Is that why you are against him?
It's high on the list.
Trump didn't exactly drain the swamp and is swayed way too easily by anyone that kisses up to him.
Spending and handing power to Fauci are major issues also
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 3/19/23 at 10:45 pm to jlnoles79
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quote:Blaming trump won’t work forever
Nominating him again won't work either.
If Trump is the nominee, do the right thing and vote Trump.
Posted on 3/19/23 at 10:46 pm to jlnoles79
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Trump will lose to Biden again.
He has to lose to Biden the first time in order to lose again.
Everyone with even half a brain cell knows he didn't lose the 2020 election to Biden because the election was stolen.
Posted on 3/19/23 at 10:50 pm to Bass Tiger
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Trump is the nominee, do the right thing and vote Trump.
I would knowing full well he'd lose
Posted on 3/19/23 at 10:57 pm to jlnoles79
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There will be people that may not like Biden and the terrible job he's done but they hate Trump more.
This.
I'd vote for him, but there are millions that vote on their feels. And Trump is repulsive to them.
Posted on 3/19/23 at 10:59 pm to Bass Tiger
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If Trump is the nominee, do the right thing and vote Trump.
I can only think of one poster here who claims to be on the right side of the aisle and won't vote for Trump, period. And frankly if he's representative of any substantial slice of America we're all screwed anyway.
Posted on 3/19/23 at 11:03 pm to greygoose
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Then throw in RINO, career politicians that did little to support Republican candidates and we get what we got.
You do know that Trump did next to nothing to support candidates in the 22 midterms, right?
Posted on 3/19/23 at 11:10 pm to greygoose
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Then throw in RINO, career politicians that did little to support Republican candidates and we get what we got
Like Herschel Walker? Blake Masters? Kari Lake? Dr. Oz? These were not career politicians. These were Trump picks who lost winnable races. Career politicians would have won those races.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 12:49 am to AU86
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I hate Biden and the federal government with a passion. I think that the Democrats are evil and many of them want to destroy everything that the founders established. But I refuse to worship Trump and pretend he has no shortcomings. You say that DeSantis supporters won't criticize Biden and current affairs. Many Trump supporters refuse to acknowledge that he has shortcomings. Trump was terrible at personnel and he sure as hell did not Drain the Swamp. He failed with Fauci also. I don't think Trump can win the general. He is toxic as hell with alot of people and it's of his own making. If he is the nominee, I hope that I am wrong. I also think that DeSantis would make a great president.
Spot on here. I just cannot comprehend why the diehard Trump folks think that DeSantis supporters will be pissed if Trump wins the primary, won't vote for him in the general, and be wrecked if Trump were to actually win. Where is this shite coming from? I don't know anybody who is currently supporting DeSantis that won't vote Trump in the general, and won't be ecstatic if he wins. I just don't see any way he does win, unless this clown act arrest will motivate people who otherwise dislike Trump to reach their limit with the left's corruption.
Millions disliked Biden but voted for him simply to stop Trump, maybe now millions more will vote Trump to stop the left from destroying America. Permanently
Posted on 3/20/23 at 1:03 am to Flats
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I can only think of one poster here who claims to be on the right side of the aisle and won't vote for Trump,
Who?
Posted on 3/20/23 at 1:40 am to mikeybates
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Career politicians would have won those races.
I, for one, don't want career politics in office. That's one of the main problems with DC now.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 4:24 am to JColtF
You folks overthink this stuff.
I loathe Trump the man and don’t think much more of Trump the politician, but if he’s the R nominee, he’s getting my vote.
It’s really much more simple than you’re trying to make it.
I loathe Trump the man and don’t think much more of Trump the politician, but if he’s the R nominee, he’s getting my vote.
It’s really much more simple than you’re trying to make it.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 4:54 am to Ole Ag
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Most of us will certainly vote Trump if he is the nominee, I certainly will. I just hate the Only Trump can fix this mess crap. It is a HUGE turn off for people who don't worship the guy. But he beats the shite out of Biden.
I don't worship him, and don't know anyone who does. I don't understand what makes people think he is not the best option. People say what you just said, all the time now, it seems. They say we're all about Trump, and nothing but Trump.
First of all, only God's grace can fix this, if we're willing to humble ourselves as a nation and repent. But as political candidates go in this fight, We've got a bunch of people who say they'll do something, and then we have one guy who actually went out and did what he said he'd do. People are looking for something less volatile for their own comfort's sake, but it took someone with that demeanor to put up with the things that have been thrown at him.
I like Desantis. But I'd rather he wait his turn. And I am also not sold that he is exactly who I think he is, simply because I haven't seen him in Trump's position. How do I know he won't turn on his principles when he finds himself under the scrutiny of the entire leftist machine? He's just a governor right now.
I don't honestly think he's going to turn like that, but my preference remains Trump, because I know what he's about, I've seen him take on the establishment before it was cool to do so. Everyone else has been riding his coattails, and most aren't willing to admit it.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 5:25 am to Corso
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Spot on here. I just cannot comprehend why the diehard Trump folks think that DeSantis supporters will be pissed if Trump wins the primary, won't vote for him in the general, and be wrecked if Trump were to actually win. Where is this shite coming from? I don't know anybody who is currently supporting DeSantis that won't vote Trump in the general, and won't be ecstatic if he wins. I just don't see any way he does win, unless this clown act arrest will motivate people who otherwise dislike Trump to reach their limit with the left's corruption.
Millions disliked Biden but voted for him simply to stop Trump, maybe now millions more will vote Trump to stop the left from destroying America. Permanently
I'm not going to pretend to know what the exact percentage is of people who support Desantis over Trump, who would hate it if he won the primary, but it seems that nearly every time I read or hear someone talking about their support of Desantis, they are insulting Trump, and going on about everything they think is terrible about him. They talk about people worshiping him, but criticize every mistake he made, giving him almost no credit for all the things that were accomplished, as if they expected perfection out of him. Almost is if they had deified him, only to be betrayed by his imperfection.
And who here doesn't know that Trump easily won the last election? Do we really still have non-liberals pretending that the election wasn't stolen in the middle of the night? Do these people also still believe that the "COVID was created and 'leaked' from a lab" story is a conspiracy theory?
Honestly, I'm coming very close to reaching the point of believing that a lot of the anti-trump rhetoric coming supposedly from the right, is just paid propaganda from the left. Not all of it, but a lot.
People say Trump was bad at picking his cabinet. He did make some questionable choices, to be sure. But he also made some that were universally praised, only for them to ultimately turn on him, and people somehow blame Trump for that. Those people could not handle the hate they were receiving. No administration has ever faced such intense scrutiny. Many of his cabinet choose to throw him under the bus to save their own public images, rather than stand up to the mob, and understand that the mob doesn't represent the majority.
That is the entire problem with DC. Not nearly enough courage or integrity. That people don't seem to respect that Trump never gave in, even if his instincts were sometimes not correct, is hard for me to comprehend. I frankly don't trust people who show such disrespect, because I tend to lump them in with the very people surrounding Trump who turned on him. And not because I have some tribalistic obligation to distance myself form anyone who doesn't agree with me, but because it makes me ask myself "why do these people spend so much time focusing on the mistakes of a man who accomplished more in one term than most political figures ever do in a lifetime of sitting in a chair, collecting money and doing nothing of note?". It makes me question whether any of these anti-trumpers actually have a clue what's going on.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 5:56 am to Metaloctopus
Spot on!
Posted on 3/20/23 at 6:35 am to momentoftruth87
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They’re never trumpers. Notice they never complain about Biden or current affairs
Wrong. Just tired of the clown act. With DeSantis there is at least some potential to get more conservative policies in place. The Trumper has already proven that the FBI, DOJ, NSA, and CIA will run him around like a cat chasing a laser.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 7:01 am to LSU0358
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Wrong. Just tired of the clown act. With DeSantis there is at least some potential to get more conservative policies in place
What conservative policies is he going to attempt to put in place that Trump didn't, and won't do in a second term, and what is he going to do about the RINO's in congress who wouldn't fight with Trump? Is he going to give them a backbone? Where is the advantage over Trump here?
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The Trumper has already proven that the FBI, DOJ, NSA, and CIA will run him around like a cat chasing a laser.
Because they hate him, not because they have ever actually had anything on him. You haven't gathered that they went after him because he was a threat to them? These three letter agencies, along with the department of injustice, are all part of the establishment. If Desantis is who we think he is, what do you think will happen to him? You think they'll just leave him alone?
You can support Desantis all you want. I support him, too, just not over Trump. But to act like things are going to be any different under Desantis is something that no one has yet to articulate to me. People sound like the left. "He's not presidential enough. He says mean things. He's toxic". Of course he's toxic... to the establishment. He's poison to them. Why is that a problem?
Posted on 3/20/23 at 7:57 am to rhar61
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if only it had been Kasich it would have been really super duper amirite?
I know you enjoy Biden as your President. I'd rather he not get another four years.
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