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Posted on 2/17/26 at 9:50 am to SallysHuman
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All of this. We all have ingrained bent towards one sin or another. Gays don't get a pass any more than the adulterer does, or the gambler or the glutton.
Sin is sin, no matter what form it takes. The only one Scripture calls unforgivable is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 9:51 am to Powerman
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I mean the woman seems unhinged but maybe publicly trying to force your religion on people for online clicks isn't the best idea either
I wonder if you feel the same about protesters and antif doing much worse?
Nevermind. Of course you dont.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 9:52 am to wackatimesthree
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I don't think either one of those claims is true, by the way.
You are entitled to your own belief. Being Gay is a lifestyle choice. It is, and always has been, a Sin. GOD created Woman for Man and GOD created marriage to be one biological Man and one biological Woman. That's the TRUTH regardless of whether you disagree or believe differently.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 10:00 am to RCDfan1950
quote:I'm glad you are wrestling with these hard sayings. Our natural desires are contrary to the work of the Spirit, so there are many truths that are hard for us to understand, and some that are hard to even accept
RCDfan1950
My encouragement to you would be to seek to be conformed to God's word, rather than judging it based on what you want to be true, if, indeed, you are doing that in terms of the "born this way" mentality. It's better to seek clarity from God's word than to reject it.
All people are born with a sinful nature inherited by our federal head and representative, Adam. That sin manifests itself in various ways, such as a propensity to excess like drunkenness, or pride, or in many cases, sexual impurity. When sinners say "I was born this way", they are merely seeking to justify what God has forbidden. All people are called to die to self, put sin to death, and seek to be conformed to the image of Christ in holiness, turning away from sin and seeking after obedience to God out of thankfulness for being forgiven due to Christ's work on the cross.
Many people don't like that message because they love their sin. They like to be in control of their own lives and seek peace with the conflict inside them by giving in to their natural desires rather than have that on-going conflict that Christians are called to. In the case of sexual proclivities like homosexuality, that may be a call to being eunuchs for the sake of Christ, refraining from all sexual interaction in spite of their desires. That may be very difficult, but it's a difficulty all people are called to do, just like the heterosexual who lusts after his neighbor's wife: he is called to die to self and not seek to commit adultery rather than giving in to his lusts.
Regarding the concept of reincarnation and a second life after this one, I'd suggest you study the concept more if you think that reincarnation is a biblical concept. Jesus and the New Testament writers are very clear that there is no expectation of another life other than the life to come where all people are raised from the dead and given new bodies to enter into judgement and eternal glory or eternal damnation. There is no teaching that when we die, our souls can come back into another body and we live another life this side of glory. In fact, the Apostle Paul said that to be absent from this body is to be present with the Lord. And no, John the Baptist was not a reincarnation of Elias/Elijah. That was a prophecy that one like Elijah would come, preparing the way for the Messiah. John took on the role of Elijah as a prophet; He was not Elijah. In fact, on the Mount of Transfiguration in Matthew 17, we are told that Moses and Elijah met with Jesus. It was not said that the beheaded John the Baptist met with Jesus as the reincarnated Elijah.
The woman in the video seemed to hate the message of Christ and God's word in the Scriptures. The response is to pray for her conversion, that the Lord would give her eyes to see and ears to hear the truth.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 10:01 am to riccoar
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Being Gay is a lifestyle choice.
No, having gay sex is a lifestyle choice. You have yet to supply any evidence that "being" gay is something that all gay people choose.
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It is, and always has been, a Sin
Yep. No problem with that one.
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GOD created Woman for Man and GOD created marriage to be one biological Man and one biological Woman.
Or that one.
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That's the TRUTH regardless of whether you disagree or believe differently.
You've claimed an entailment that doesn't necessarily follow. Yes, God designed sexuality to be expressed in the context of monogamous heterosexual marriage.
That doesn't mean that having desires for something else is anything anybody can control or choose to have or not have. People can choose what they do about those desires, but there's nothing in the Bible that says that every gay person chooses those desires (I do think that some people do, which is why I qualify with "every gay person").
Just like I think some people are born with a tendency toward anger. They like it. And some of those people resist that tendency and maybe even overcome it, and others lean into it and make it even worse.
But they all were born with it.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:28 am to wackatimesthree
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but there's nothing in the Bible that says that every gay person chooses those desires
Of course they do. People can list a litany of reasons not to attend Church, and 99.9% of the time they blame something or someone else, but ultimately they just don't want to. Most times because they are living outside the will of God.
Saying someone doesn't choose certain desires is the same as saying that GOD gave them those desires which He did not. Satan did and does.
There is no splitting hairs when it comes to GOD. Someone can claim to be attracted to something outside nature or God's way, but God did not make them that way or give them those sinful desires. Human sinful nature does.
Because a person living 100% in the Will of GOD would completely turn from those desires and actions without question if they truly were a born again Believer in Jesus Christ.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:35 am to FooManChoo
Thanks Foo. I argue to further my own understanding, believing that Knowledge is a transformative power. And hopefully a general understanding and coming together in the larger populace. Not necessarily good or bad but according to the circumstances such creates. And I believe that the Holy Spirit will deliver Vision regardless of one’s understanding. Discernment is key.
There is some YouTube Jewish Rabbi that promotes the ‘Ressurection’ idea as if we’re traditional Jewish Theology. I can’t recall his name but he has a large white beard and is very well spoke. Of course Lucifer was “the shining angel “.
And the Catholics go the ‘Purgatory’ route. That is likely Yours Truly as I have many flaws which I believe that I desire and can overcome, but not in a singular life. And not for personal Egoic service, but rather to make my Creator and His Son proud and joyful re my own efforts and victory. They don’t need the proud, but they thought ow my own family and friend’s victories make me happy for them. So I think it works that way with my Creator. Triune God as it were
Thanks again. Be well.
There is some YouTube Jewish Rabbi that promotes the ‘Ressurection’ idea as if we’re traditional Jewish Theology. I can’t recall his name but he has a large white beard and is very well spoke. Of course Lucifer was “the shining angel “.
And the Catholics go the ‘Purgatory’ route. That is likely Yours Truly as I have many flaws which I believe that I desire and can overcome, but not in a singular life. And not for personal Egoic service, but rather to make my Creator and His Son proud and joyful re my own efforts and victory. They don’t need the proud, but they thought ow my own family and friend’s victories make me happy for them. So I think it works that way with my Creator. Triune God as it were
Thanks again. Be well.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:42 am to riccoar
Predestination factors in, ric. “I knew you before you were in the womb”. “Some unto honor, and some unto dishonor “.
Jesus has this. Therein my only hope for the best that life may offer. Soon to be.
Jesus has this. Therein my only hope for the best that life may offer. Soon to be.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 12:03 pm to Powerman
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maybe publicly trying to force your religion on people for online clicks isn't the best idea either
Yes, I see the tractor beam that locked on to the unhinged, and forced them to go out of their way to stop, listen, and subsequently berate him.
They name streets after you Powerman. They're called "one-way".
Posted on 2/17/26 at 12:08 pm to Flats
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He's talking on a public sidewalk and all the loons had to do is keep walking. I avoid or ignore people handing out flyers or whatever all the time. It might be mildly annoying but they're not forcing anything on me just by making something available in public.
The one that's really annoying is the group that sets up at The Arch (demarcation between UGA campus and downtown Athens) on game days, at College Square. It's not just people passing by, it's people sitting (standing) around all the little bars and cafe's that have to listen to that shite. They are screaming through bullhorns, and when one takes a break, there's a backup that picks up the bullhorn and continues, so there's no break in the noise. I don't know who those people think they are saving, they are pushing people away by way of obnoxia.
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 12:23 pm to Mike da Tigah
If we are being honest, gay people are uncontrollably angry a lot of the time.
The hubris to think it's reasonable to attack someone because they believe something about you is quite amazing.
A reasonable response would have been to roll her eyes and walk away...or roll her eyes and confront him for his beliefs.
The hubris to think it's reasonable to attack someone because they believe something about you is quite amazing.
A reasonable response would have been to roll her eyes and walk away...or roll her eyes and confront him for his beliefs.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 12:26 pm to Powerman
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I mean the woman seems unhinged but maybe publicly trying to force your religion on people for online clicks isn't the best idea either
"force your religion"
It's hilarious the hyperbole with which you must speak to make a point.
He wasn't forcing his religion on her. He wasn't demanding she do or hear anything. He didn't chase her down. He didn't demand she repent.
But, without realizing it, instead of trying to make an honest point of "maybe expressing your religious opinion publicly" you equated it to "force your religion on".
Posted on 2/17/26 at 12:32 pm to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 2/17/26 at 12:43 pm to riccoar
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Saying someone doesn't choose certain desires is the same as saying that GOD gave them those desires which He did not.
Of course it's not. Look, I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this because it seems that you have a very simple view of this and no capacity to understand a theology that is even a little nuanced.
We live in a fallen world. We come into it as fallen creatures. We do not choose that fallen-ness, nor did God inflict it upon us. It's part of our nature, and if it were not so we wouldn't need Jesus because people would simply be capable of choosing righteousness.
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Someone can claim to be attracted to something outside nature or God's way, but God did not make them that way or give them those sinful desires.
You're the only one making that claim, despite the fact that no logical entailment requires it.
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Human sinful nature does.
Yeah. It's interesting how you can make all of these correct statements, but can't logically put them together.
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Because a person living 100% in the Will of GOD would completely turn from those desires and actions without question if they truly were a born again Believer in Jesus Christ.
Yes, they would turn away from those desires, but THEY WOULD STILL HAVE THEM.
If they didn't, there would be nothing for them to turn away from. I can't "turn away" from homosexual desires, because I don't have any. Odds are, you're the same way.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 12:50 pm to deeprig9
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I don't know who those people think they are saving, they are pushing people away
1. You don't know that at all. There's simply no way for you to know the internal reaction of every person within earshot of those people. If even one person repents then it was successful.
2. Even if no one repents, nobody within earshot can claim they didn't know at judgement.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 6:53 am to RCDfan1950
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The word or concept “Reincarnation” is loaded, given Eastern, long existing non Christian Spirituality. God’s Word - both Old and New Testament- bears witness via “you reap whereupon another has sewn” and “you will go IN AND OUT and find pasture “, and the scenario where Jesus told His Disciples that “this (being John the Baptist) IS Elias who was to come”.
Let’s run through something real quick:
- His birth was announced by an angel.
- He came from heaven to inhabit a body.
- He believed the Pharisees and Sadducees were worshipping incorrectly.
- He became a preacher.
- He forgave people of their sins.
- He developed a following of disciples, who believed he was the Messiah.
- He was apocalyptic and taught that the world was going to end very soon and that everyone needed to get right with God right away.
- He pissed off the ruling class, and was executed by the government.
- He was placed in a tomb by his disciples.
- Many of his followers, and even some in authority, believed he was resurrected.
- Was written about by Jewish traitor and historian Flavius Josephus.
- An entire religion based on this figure still exists to this day.
Who am I talking about???
Duh! Yohanan the Baptizer!
I believe John the Baptizer was a historical figure on which the “historical” Jesus was based. I believe they took the pre-existent Logos/archangel figure of Philo and Paul and crafted tall tales (gospels) using the real historical John the Baptist as a template for Jesus. Then when people claimed they were copying the John the Baptist story, they wrote in the details about them being cousins - hey we aren’t copying, the stories are similar on purpose!
The Mandeans are a religious group that to this day ritually baptizes their members in flowing water and believes that John the Baptizer was the messiah and the greatest and final prophet of God. There’s about 100,000 followers today, of which about 15,000 live in the good ole USA.
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There is much more to be said but this is already too long for most on this Board (minus Squirrel
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and Foo
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Posted on 3/5/26 at 7:11 am to Mike da Tigah
That is rather obvious and prurient bait…
Posted on 3/5/26 at 7:22 am to Mike da Tigah
If Jesus suddenly showed up again, I'm convinced they would crucify Him again. The level of hatred and lawlessness directed at true Christians is appalling.
Her name was Iryna Zarutska.
Her name was Iryna Zarutska.
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