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re: The not a great candidate argument is so sheepish.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:08 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:08 pm to Indefatigable
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The entire argument comes from McConnell. No it doesn’t. At all.
Pretty much everyone outside of the most hardened Trump loyalists have said it from the moment Trump endorsed Walker.
So the party leadership is failing to find candidates who will connect with primary voters? Maybe they need some soul searching/rethinking in that regard. Seems like it would would yield more than this present handwringing and finger pointing tantrum, no?
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:09 pm to the808bass
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He” did not. He’s almost retarded. His campaign (including his accomplices in the media) did. He didn’t do anything.
Duh. The media carries Democrat water. This is known.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:09 pm to dos crystal
Herschel, for those who bothered watching, did quite well and made solid points during his lone debate.
Yes, as a preacher, Warnock is quite polished and comfortable @ talking to an audience. Public speaking kind of comes with the territory.
But where were the clips from that debate? How didn't Team Herschel not use those stand-up moments? Were they told NOT to, by the RNC? Or were they just that incompetent?
As a resident of GA, 95% of the ads I saw or heard were pro Warnock, and at least 1/2 of those never even mentioned Walker or the runnoff election. There were really odd ads saying " TELL Warnock to stop wasting our money " from some group OneNationAmerica.org. Clearly a shell PAC to firmly establish that Warnock is the lone person to be concerned with, never mind there's another candidate.
Again, this well-funded organization never ONCE mentioned Walker or urged voters to support him.
Yes, as a preacher, Warnock is quite polished and comfortable @ talking to an audience. Public speaking kind of comes with the territory.
But where were the clips from that debate? How didn't Team Herschel not use those stand-up moments? Were they told NOT to, by the RNC? Or were they just that incompetent?
As a resident of GA, 95% of the ads I saw or heard were pro Warnock, and at least 1/2 of those never even mentioned Walker or the runnoff election. There were really odd ads saying " TELL Warnock to stop wasting our money " from some group OneNationAmerica.org. Clearly a shell PAC to firmly establish that Warnock is the lone person to be concerned with, never mind there's another candidate.
Again, this well-funded organization never ONCE mentioned Walker or urged voters to support him.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:11 pm to the808bass
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He was Mayor of a town of less than 2,000 people. It’s a glorified HOA position.
Regardless, he had 16 years of experience in a governing position which was 16 years more than Oz at any level. He was probably seen as a more serious candidate than a TV doctor.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:11 pm to dos crystal
Even the Hannity Big E's said Turtle has put out losers for a while.
This isn't Trump's fault. He wanted nonpoliticians in because they have been committing insanity in DC for 50 years.
The GOPe knew damned well that Wornack is a Rev. Wright like preacher. They went into AME churches throughout Georgia and paid from the pulpit and gave them free uber's to vote.
Plus, possibly many fringe stayed home disgusted because Trump was uninvited to campaign for Walker towards the end?
This isn't Trump's fault. He wanted nonpoliticians in because they have been committing insanity in DC for 50 years.
The GOPe knew damned well that Wornack is a Rev. Wright like preacher. They went into AME churches throughout Georgia and paid from the pulpit and gave them free uber's to vote.
Plus, possibly many fringe stayed home disgusted because Trump was uninvited to campaign for Walker towards the end?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:11 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
I watched one of their debates and it was pretty embarrassing for both of them.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:11 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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So the party leadership is failing to find candidates who will connect with primary voters?
No, primary voters in this instance just so happen to be Trump’s core constituency in deep red rural Georgia. They’re going to do what he tells them to do. Unfortunately those people don’t realize that Trump does not care whether his endorsed candidates actually win or are even well suited to the electorate they are running in.
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Seems like it would would yield more than this present handwringing and finger pointing tantrum, no?
Telling the Trump primary voters that they are idiots for nominating a retard with baggage is not a tantrum.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:15 pm to dos crystal
It's possible for me to separate Walker and evaluate him independently.
He was a poor candidate in every sense of the word. He spoke poorly and stumbled on his words frequently. Also, referring to yourself by name constantly comes across to people as arrogant and conceded.
He was a poor candidate in every sense of the word. He spoke poorly and stumbled on his words frequently. Also, referring to yourself by name constantly comes across to people as arrogant and conceded.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:15 pm to Indefatigable
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Telling the Trump primary voters that they are idiots for nominating a retard with baggage is not a tantrum.
That's right, blame Trump for the stupidity of moderates.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:17 pm to 93and99
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That's right, blame Trump for the stupidity of moderates.
Blame is not a finite commodity.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:19 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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He was probably seen as a more serious candidate than a TV doctor.
This is why people don’t take your gay arse seriously.
You say “Fetterman was mayor.” Yeah, of Bumblefrick, PA. And “Oz is a TV doctor.” Oz was a cardiothorassic surgeon who performed heart transplants and ran the cardiovascular institute at New York Presbyterian for years (which I can guarantee you had more employees and more revenue than previously mentioned Bumblefrick, PA). Then he became a professor at Columbia University school of Medicine.
He has also invented devices related to cardiac surgery and holds patents for them.
But yeah. He’s a TV doctor.
Dumbfrick.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:20 pm to TomJoadGhost
There was only 1 debate.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:22 pm to TomJoadGhost
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However you want to splice it. He did more than Oz to win over PA voters.
Was it the hoodie, his Marxist views or his complete incoherence than won them over?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:24 pm to Oates Mustache
Walker talked like he was from a small Georgia town. Very normal accent
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:26 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Hell, I’ve voted for more shite candidates than “quality” candidates in my lifetime, but only NOW is it the biggest issue for our concern?
You voted for senate candidates worse than Walker? Who?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:28 pm to Indefatigable
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Telling the Trump primary voters that they are idiots for nominating a retard with baggage is not a tantrum.
Whatever you wanna call it, it certainly sounds like anything but a way to win their favor. Hope you’re not involved on the strategy end of things, but seeing how things are going, I wouldn’t be surprised.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:29 pm to RuLSU
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You voted for senate candidates worse than Walker? Who?
I have. Roy Blunt. Todd Akin.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:32 pm to the808bass
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But yeah. He’s a TV doctor.
Respectfully, to the overwhelming majority of Americans, he is a TV doctor who peddles questionable products for profit.
Also, no need to get personal
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:32 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Whatever you wanna call it, it certainly sounds like anything but a way to win their favor. Hope you’re not involved on the strategy end of things, but seeing how things are going, I wouldn’t be surprised.
No strategy will work until Trump himself fixes the issue by either valuing general election viability or staying out of the way.
And you aren’t dumb. You know that. You know that he has a hold on the primary voter portion of the party. You also know that picking candidates in purple districts/states based on the most conservative wing of the party is a recipe for losses. Candidates like Walker cannot be sold to white single and urban women in theses places, which is where the GOP is bleeding most.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:33 pm to RuLSU
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You voted for senate candidates worse than Walker? Who?
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