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re: This is what happened during the latest Minneapolis shooting.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:06 pm to Willie Stroker
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:06 pm to Willie Stroker
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with a bunch of agitators blowing Karen whistles
An overlooked fact.
Whistles blowing from three different directions interferes with the ability to verbally deescalate.
Soon as somebody yelled gungungun the dude's goose was cooked.
If that happens somebody is about to get shot.
A textbook training scenario no less.
Down to the artificially injected noise to cause confusion.
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:07 pm to bhtigerfan
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So you’re saying that after the guy in the grey jacket that retrieved the gun walked away, another agent circled behind him with his weapon drawn and fired after the accidental discharge?
No I’m saying that it is only when grey jacket retrieved the gun that the other agent pulled his pistol. That agent can be seen stepping towards the pile appearing to look for a weapon. As the gun discharges the agent is now directly behind the guy on the ground who begins to rise up from a prone position. That is when the fatal shots are fired. No other agents have pulled their weapon at this point.
Give me a few and I’ll break it down clean with screenshots
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:10 pm to bhtigerfan
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So you’re convinced that it was just an accidental discharge caused by the pistol? I
Yes, here’s the link to my post LINK
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:10 pm to Stat M Repairman
We living in bizarro world now.
Off in la-la land.
2019 and before there would be no question this was a clean shoot.
Dumbasses getting gaslighted.
Just like covid and everything else.
Off in la-la land.
2019 and before there would be no question this was a clean shoot.
Dumbasses getting gaslighted.
Just like covid and everything else.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:11 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:So you’re saying that the agent that fired the first shots saw the other agent disarm him?
No I’m saying that it is only when grey jacket retrieved the gun that the other agent pulled his pistol. That agent can be seen stepping towards the pile appearing to look for a weapon.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:12 pm to bhtigerfan
Pretti brought his gun, not to defend himself with, but as part of an offensive posture to obstruct law enforcement officers.
Had he not done either of those two things he’d be alive today.
If you make enough poor decisions in a row sometimes Darwin steps up and decides he’s seen enough.
Had he not done either of those two things he’d be alive today.
If you make enough poor decisions in a row sometimes Darwin steps up and decides he’s seen enough.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:13 pm to bhtigerfan
Law enforcement immunity can block all the investigation. This same rule applied to the events that happened all over the world. Americans should mind our own business first.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:14 pm to bhtigerfan
I'm not a gun guy, but in order to have a gun accidently discharge, doesn't it have to have a bullet in the chamber and be cocked? And if that was the case, wouldn't it mean the person in possession would probably have some intention or idea that he would need to discharge it?
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:14 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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Cry me a river. Quite literally no different from saying “dead guy was a dumbass who deserved to die” — except that this person is actually dead.
Selectively triggered
Quite literally, it is different. The dead guy didn't deserve to die, but he did several things that increased his likelihood of dying and then he won the lottery. It's a loss. He does not seem like a bad guy, just mislead like so many others in the MSP area. I lived there before internet and it was a sea of bias and misinformation.
As for you. Go back to the OT or the gay sex with llamas board or wherever the frick you normally hang out. You are a POS.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:26 pm to bhtigerfan
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So you’re saying that the agent that fired the first shots saw the other agent disarm him?
I feel like I’m repeating myself. The agent that fired the fatal shots can be seen for the majority of the video outside the pile with a can of pepper spray observing and staying out of the pile. The agent in the grey shirt comes in behind the pile and in real quick fashion exposes the pistol for the first time, and quickly unholsters it with his right hand before retreating with this weird sort of spinning maneuver. It is only when the pistol is exposed that you see the agent pull his weapon, and mostly likely believing the dead guy retrieved it with his right hand.. You can then see this agent step towards the pile presumably looking for the weapon he just saw quickly unholster and disappear. As he begins moving towards the dead guy’s head, the weapon the agent retrieved accidentally discharges.. The agent who has his weapon drawn is now behind the guy who is in a prone position, hands hidden and who he believes has a weapon. He is also reacting to a gunshot. He fires the fatal shots believing the guy is armed and has fired the weapon.. it’s a ridiculously unfortunate series of events.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:42 pm to jammajin
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So it’s yet to be determined whether the agent accidentally caused the accidental discharge with his finger, or the gun went off due to the P320 problem. Can we agree that if the deceased: 1) would not have brought the P320 to the scene 2) would not have been in an obstructing position to ICE 3) would not have resisted ICE commands
Do you think Ashli Babbitt was murdered or are her and Pretti situation very similar?
1. Pretti had a weapon and DC Police and Secret Service were advised people had weapons.
2. Both did not listen to officers when they told them to stop
3. Pretti got in agents personal space. Babbitt was in a closed government building that had the VP, Senate, and House in it and was going towards their positions.
Both were preventable and should not have happened. We will know more about Pretti once the officers body cam video’s are released.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:46 pm to soonerinlOUisiana
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Sounds like textbook reasonable use of deadly force.
Good God not even close to a "textbook" case
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:48 pm to RebRxV
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I'm not a gun guy, but in order to have a gun accidently discharge, doesn't it have to have a bullet in the chamber and be cocked? And if that was the case, wouldn't it mean the person in possession would probably have some intention or idea that he would need to discharge it?
Not necessarily. LEOs always carry with a round in the chamber. Concealed carry guys may or may not.
But I did not see a holster on Pretti. He either carried in his waistband or had an inside the waistband holster. Neither is a secure method for a novice gun carrier to use. Under those circumstances, he should not have a round in the chamber. But having a round in the chamber does not necessarily suggest anything other than being ready to go if necessary.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:55 pm to bhtigerfan
Common sense doesn’t seem to be a strong point with these protesters
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:05 pm to bhtigerfan
I just don't care. The left let them in. The left is responsible for issues getting them removed. That guy voted for this.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:06 pm to RebRxV
quote:Nah, the majority of people that conceal carry always have a round in the chamber.
I'm not a gun guy, but in order to have a gun accidently discharge, doesn't it have to have a bullet in the chamber and be cocked? And if that was the case, wouldn't it mean the person in possession would probably have some intention or idea that he would need to discharge it?
Not having to draw a pistol and rack the slide to load a round into the chamber can mean the difference between life and death.
All law enforcement officers always have a round chambered.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:07 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:
So it’s yet to be determined whether the agent accidentally caused the accidental discharge with his finger
That would be textbook negligent discharge
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:09 pm to MoarKilometers
quote:If you discount the numerous negligent discharges by the Sig P320.
So it’s yet to be determined whether the agent accidentally caused the accidental discharge with his finger
That would be textbook negligent discharge
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:10 pm to kingbob
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haven't seen enough video to indicate the extent to which he was actually doing this
What extent do you believe should be allowable? How about none.
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