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Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:27 pm to
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people priced out of the housing market and are flushing their money down the drain on overly priced rentals.


What do you think increased demand will cause?
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 6:47 pm to
Were talking in circles. You anti rate cut fricks are fricking idiots.

Just dont hide when rates get cut and the economy booms and we start threads calling you idiots out on your bullshite stances today
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6349 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 7:34 pm to
Why do we need a government agency setting rates? Let the market decide.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19747 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 10:31 pm to
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If cutting 1 percent on the rate saves us 350 Billion annually. Cut the fricking rate.
and they’ll add another 700 billion in spending to compensate

we’re fricked either way, what does it matter?
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8965 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 10:39 pm to
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We dont need lower rates. That how you overheat the economy.


Exit polls back in November showed that "inflation/cost of living" was the biggest issue for voters by a longshot.

Combatting inflation and cost of living was Trump's biggest mandate from voters.

So basically I'm agreeing with you.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8965 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 10:41 pm to
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Housing prices haven't fallen enough. This forcing prices down is a good thing, IMHO.


A lot of these people trying to sell their homes are stuck in 2022 and still trying to party like it's 2022. It's a pipe dream.
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1713 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 12:34 am to
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The answer there is lowering prices. Lowering rates would increase prices.


Man this is about to really hurt. I generally disagree with everything that comes out of SFP’s mouth. I absolutely believe he supports pedophiles and is maybe the only poster on this site that I would get actual pleasure from meeting him at a Sonic….but….

He is right about this. Now let me go throw up.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142472 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 12:42 am to
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We dont need lower rates. That how you overheat the economy.


Is this your way of admitting Trump turbo charged the economy in less than 6 months?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 4:06 am to
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admitting Trump turbo charged the economy in less than 6 months?



Huh?

The economy is fine as long as you stop kicking the can down the road, which is exactly what he's doing.

Turbocharged?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
53646 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 4:51 am to
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We dont need lower rates. That how you overheat the economy.

You and Powell might be right, and Trump might be right. The reason this is being much debated is because it is not clear cut. It will be…in retrospect.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16860 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:24 am to
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Now there is this new NPC talking point about the federal debt, but we all know where that's coming from and again, that's a spending issue that needs to be resolved with spending less and fixing our debt issues that way
if we cut federal spending to 0 we still owe $37 trillion which has to be paid for at higher rates now because of yellens incompetence.. That isn't a talking point, it's reality.

I'm not a proponent of cutting rates now any more than I was the two times Powell did it right before the election but you can't ignore just dismiss the cost of servicing the debt as some talking point

Personally I think rates should stay where they are. I also think fedgov spending should be cut but congress refuses to do it. Huge shock there
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19823 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:25 am to
Imagine wishing for more inflation.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19823 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:26 am to
Maybe cut spending? Raise taxes?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
95993 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:27 am to
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Imagine wishing for more inflation.


Just like how the last cuts caused more inflation


Oh wait
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16860 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:28 am to
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this will start the market losing confidence in the value of housing prices, which is going to really escalate the slashing of these overrated home values
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471073 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:34 am to
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if we cut federal spending to 0 we still owe $37 trillion which has to be paid for at higher rates now because of yellens incompetence

Sure. We don't have a time machine though, so we can't fix that, now.

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but you can't ignore just dismiss the cost of servicing the debt as some talking point

I bring it up only because it's clear that the NPCs have been given a talking point. We've been discussing these rates for a long time and this is a very new development.

Hell, it wasn't even discussed at all on here until that became a theory behind Trump's tariff strategy.

The people pushing for the rate decrease seem to actually be doing it for 2 reasons

1. Pure politics, following the lead of echo chamber content creators telling them this is what their team believes

2. People who are associated with the housing market (or who have direct-personal interests) who fear housing prices falling.

I imagine group 2 is the vast majority of people being active in these conversations, and its quite transparent. That's why they had to create a new talking point (the refi one) to permit them the standard leeway in cover/pivoting to hide their self interest guiding their arguments.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471073 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:37 am to


Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16860 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:43 am to
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Hell, it wasn't even discussed at all on here until that became a theory behind Trump's tariff strategy.

NC_TIGAH had a thread in 2023
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I imagine group 2 is the vast majority of people being active in these conversations, and its quite transparent. That's why they had to create a new talking point (the refi one) to permit them the standard leeway in cover/pivoting to hide their self interest guiding their arguments.
I'm in neither group and don't support a rate drop but I still recognize yellens frickup is costing us hundreds of billions.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16860 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:47 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471073 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:48 am to
What I was saying wasn't referenced was the fed ignoring it's policies and mandate to manipulate rates to refi the debt

THAT is the new talking point

We all know Yellen fricked up. We just don't have a time machine to fix that
This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 6:49 am
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