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re: Treblinka II...any WW2 experts on here know much about this topic?
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:06 pm to Ag Zwin
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:06 pm to Ag Zwin
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It would be interesting to know what their plan was once they reached a certain amount of “completeness” to the overall process.
there's got to be some documentation on this. because yeah, it isnt like would need purpose-built mass execution camps in perpetuity. once they killed them all, they would be done.
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Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:20 pm to Heyes
The Nazis did the same thing to Sobibor after the prisoners 'revolt. All the remaining prisoners were gassed & burned, their ashes spread across the surrounding area. The camp itself was then totally dismantled, grass & trees planted over the former camp grounds. There was even a fake farm building built & a farmer's family moved in. But Treblinka is widely recognized as an extermination camp, its sole purpose to serve as a mass killing facility for Jews. Himmler ordered the same coverup process throughout the East where mass killings took place by-4-5 special detachments of the SS, resulting in thousands murdered Jewish bodies being buried in mass graves. The SS forced Jewish prisoners to dig up the remains & then had them placed on log & railroad ties pyramids & burned till nothing was left but ashes.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:28 pm to Keltic Tiger
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The SS forced Jewish prisoners to dig up the remains & then had them placed on log & railroad ties pyramids & burned till nothing was left but ashes.
almost a million bodies burned to nothing but ashes on open fires? this is where i get a little question-y
ok, so the camp could have been designed to be erected and torn down all along, which would explain the lack of physical evidence of its existence. but then when i read that all those hundreds of thousands of bodies were dug up and burned on big bonfires with virtually no remaining evidence, it makes less sense. if the camps were designed to be removed without a trace (if they indeed were designed that way), then surely they would have had a better plan for getting rid of the bodies other than "bury a million bodies, then dig them up and burn them all". and i just dont see how you could completely annihilate all evidence of human remains like that.
ETA - i'm not the one that downvoted you
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:29 pm to Sam Quint
This is how antisemitism starts
First people like you start asking questions, next you start complaining about how 100% of your tax dollars go to Israel
First people like you start asking questions, next you start complaining about how 100% of your tax dollars go to Israel
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:32 pm to el Gaucho
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next you start complaining about how 100% of your tax dollars go to Israel
well that's bullshite because obviously a large percentage goes to the good-for-nothing societal leeches buying Capt Crunch and purple soda at Walmart on EBT
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:33 pm to Sam Quint
I was asked about 13 years ago to help in locating and documenting the sites in Russia.
The mass shooting in Russia and Poland alone is well over 1,000,000 victims.
To give you an idea of how bad, it was, the Germans sent over 600,000 German women to Russia to do support rolls. Those German women would go to eat launch outside in the cool air next to the rivers, and I know of over 4 cases where these women while walking got their shoes caught on something. That somethings was normally a hand just sticking out of the dirt.
I could not go help on the project due to my work at the railroad.
The number of shootings in Poland are huge, but not near in the vast amount in Russia.
I have many firsthand accounts are all the death camps. The Germans late in the war dug up the dead and stared to burn them and killed off all the slave labor once the job was done.
Book wise I have about 30 on the camps and mass shootings, the best is still the one about the German women on the East front.
The mass shooting in Russia and Poland alone is well over 1,000,000 victims.
To give you an idea of how bad, it was, the Germans sent over 600,000 German women to Russia to do support rolls. Those German women would go to eat launch outside in the cool air next to the rivers, and I know of over 4 cases where these women while walking got their shoes caught on something. That somethings was normally a hand just sticking out of the dirt.
I could not go help on the project due to my work at the railroad.
The number of shootings in Poland are huge, but not near in the vast amount in Russia.
I have many firsthand accounts are all the death camps. The Germans late in the war dug up the dead and stared to burn them and killed off all the slave labor once the job was done.
Book wise I have about 30 on the camps and mass shootings, the best is still the one about the German women on the East front.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:57 pm to tigger1
what are a couple books you'd recommend?
Posted on 7/3/25 at 2:04 pm to Sam Quint
13 Christian Bernadac WW2 Nazi Holocaust Ferni 1978 Leather Bound
Good set of 13 books on the camps.
Good set of 13 books on the camps.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 7/3/25 at 2:31 pm to Sam Quint
documentaries are not proof, they are infotainment. They are designed first to entertain.
Go to an archive and look at the primary source documents.
Go to an archive and look at the primary source documents.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 2:37 pm to hansenthered1
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documentaries are not proof, they are infotainment. They are designed first to entertain.
Go to an archive and look at the primary source documents.
well, i didnt have time between watching infotainment last night and work today to make to it an archive to read the primary sources. i did, however, have time to make a post on a discussion board to discuss.
thank you for educating me on the purpose and nature of documentaries though.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 3:02 pm to hansenthered1
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This one is very good: LINK
I'm an educated man, but unfortunately I do not speak German.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 3:26 pm to Sam Quint
I luv it when people say I am not so and so ( Holocaust denier) then make statements which point out they are denying over 6 million Jews were murdered. Watch the Nuremberg trials, The Nazis didn't deny the murdering of mass numbers of Jews and other people. They justified it.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 3:36 pm to Goforit
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then make statements which point out they are denying over 6 million Jews were murdered
Feel free to quote where I denied the Holocaust happened.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 3:42 pm to Sam Quint
yes its hardcore
Posted on 7/3/25 at 3:50 pm to hansenthered1
You want to go to the German archives.
Only a few years ago did they release the documents on WWII.
Many sites I belong to are now releasing the names, date of deportation to the camp and date of death in the camp.
The Polish site is doing a good job on this work, as is the US Holocaust Museum.
There is a Polish site on the two up risings in Warsaw, doing daily reports on those that volunteer, when they are killed and were in Warsaw.
They also honor those that pass away and post on their service in the upraising.
Only a few years ago did they release the documents on WWII.
Many sites I belong to are now releasing the names, date of deportation to the camp and date of death in the camp.
The Polish site is doing a good job on this work, as is the US Holocaust Museum.
There is a Polish site on the two up risings in Warsaw, doing daily reports on those that volunteer, when they are killed and were in Warsaw.
They also honor those that pass away and post on their service in the upraising.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 4:08 pm to BuzzSaw 12
quote:Sure. I'm sure the truth of the holocaust is "someone around the middle" of millions dead and a couple of hundred.
History is written by the victors. The truth usually ranges somewhere around the middle.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 4:11 pm to BuzzSaw 12
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History is written by the victors. The truth usually ranges somewhere around the middle.
It also doesn't hurt that the defeated admitted to doing what they did after the war, some of them being quite proud of what they did. You also have numerous sit-down interviews, some of which were filmed, with former concentration camp guards who never denied what it is they did. Most of them were like: "Yeah, we kinda did that..."
Posted on 7/3/25 at 4:45 pm to Sam Quint
Quint, I went down this same rabbit hole last year almost exactly how you did. I felt dark and dirty digging into it. The story does not add up to logic and when you question whether it is an exaggerated storyline, emotions get fluffed.
Parts of Treblinka II seems like bullshite. The refusal to search for real mass graves, take our word and respect our religion. Oh this subsurface structure...must be the foundation for the gas chambers that were conveniently razed and could never have produced the numbers claimed by the official narrative. 900,000 people... but just remains of a few people uncovered? Cremation... ever looked into cremation?
Anyone with the littlest amount of curiosity should see red flags at the Treblinka II claims.
Holocaust questioner. Happy to hear explanations and discussion.
Parts of Treblinka II seems like bullshite. The refusal to search for real mass graves, take our word and respect our religion. Oh this subsurface structure...must be the foundation for the gas chambers that were conveniently razed and could never have produced the numbers claimed by the official narrative. 900,000 people... but just remains of a few people uncovered? Cremation... ever looked into cremation?
Anyone with the littlest amount of curiosity should see red flags at the Treblinka II claims.
Holocaust questioner. Happy to hear explanations and discussion.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 4:56 pm to El Eh Shu
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Anyone with the littlest amount of curiosity should see red flags at the Treblinka II claims. Holocaust questioner. Happy to hear explanations and discussion.
I think that's all I was trying to say. The story just doesn't make sense as presented.
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