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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:21 pm to
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its among the most embarrassing things youll ever see in an order, the judge has no idea what trumps lawyers are talking about.

Damn, that Order is harsh.


Eh. Everything they're dealing with here is pretty much completely unprecedented. Judge wants to make extra sure she's covering her arse here as much as absolutely possible, I'm guessing.
Posted by AggieHank86
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:21 pm to
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Is he supposed to go to the same magistrate and ask for oversight on an investigation he signed off on? You know this stuff. Come on.
Yes, he should file in the correct Division. That Division has three Magistrates and two District Judges (excluding those on Senior status)
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Damn, that Order is harsh.
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Really? Yikes. Some soft attorneys in south Texas, I guess.

A sua sponte Order that basically says (on the day the pleading was filed) that she sees no basis for jurisdiction in her court?
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:22 pm to
this thread? bump the thread I germaned, por favor.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:23 pm to
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It’s often used to screen documents that may be protected by attorney-client privilege. The FBI may also use “taint teams” for the same thing on their end.


so bidens fbi is violating client privilege?

i thought he just had nuke codes?

i cant keep up with the lunacy of the eft when it comes to trump
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:28 pm to
Calling all poli board lawyers.

Could you please break this down as to what the Judge is asking for exactly?

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“To facilitate appropriate resolution, on or before August 26, 2022,

Plaintiff shall file a supplement to the Motion further elaborating on the following:

(1) the asserted basis for the exercise of this Court’s jurisdiction, whether legal, equitable/anomalous, or both;

(2) the framework applicable to the exercise of such jurisdiction;

(3) the precise relief sought, including any request for injunctive relief pending resolution of the Motion;

(4) the effect, if any, of the proceeding before Magistrate Judge Bruce E. Reinhart; and

(5) the status of Plaintiff’s efforts to perfect service on Defendant,” Cannon said in an order.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:30 pm to
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Yes, he should file in the correct Division. That Division has three Magistrates and two District Judges (excluding those on Senior status)


It’s been a while since I have set foot in a federal court. Can you cite the rule of federal procedure that dictates which division within a district a suit must be filed?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:36 pm to
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It’s been a while since I have set foot in a federal court. Can you cite the rule of federal procedure that dictates which division within a district a suit must be filed?
In my experience, it is set by the Local Rules of that District, and most of those call for a Division on terms similar to picking a county in state court … county of residence, division of the Court in which a substantial part of the events or omissions giving rise to the claim occurred or a substantial part of the property that is the subject of the action is situated. That sort of thing.

If you are genuinely curious, I imagine you can probably find a copy of the local rules for the Southern District of Florida.
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 4:38 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:37 pm to
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In my experience, it is set by the Local Rules of that District, and most of those call for a Division on terms similar to picking a county in state court


Ok. Can you cite the local rules?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:47 pm to
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the local rules


I looked them up. There’s an omnibus “in the interest of justice” provision. I imagine that’s one of the reasons the judge issued her order asking for more clarification.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:48 pm to
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I looked them up. There’s an omnibus “in the interest of justice” provision. I imagine that’s one of the reasons the judge issued her order asking for more clarification.


That makes sense. And I would certainly think there is an argument that a non-biased judge would serve the interest of justice. Reinhold recused himself from a trump case before signing the warrant because in his own words “I cannot be impartial”.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:52 pm to
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Reinhold recused himself from a trump case before signing the warrant because in his own words “I cannot be impartial”.
Why does everyone seem to assume that the earlier recusal arose from some antipathy toward Trump.

It could have arisen from a friendship with another party in that first case… Or antipathy to another party in that earlier case … or on a half-dozen bases unrelated to Trump.

from a practical standpoint, if Reinhardt had recused himself in that earlier case due to antipathy towards Trump, he would’ve done the same thing in this case.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:59 pm to
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Why does everyone seem to assume that the earlier recusal arose from some antipathy toward Trump.

Because Reinhold has been public about his feelings about Trump.

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if Reinhardt had recused himself in that earlier case due to antipathy towards Trump, he would’ve done the same thing in this case.

You don't know this.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:00 pm to
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It's called 'Play the same chickenshit game the Dems play!' You don't have to have a reason, just do what you want, isn't that how all of the jackass Dems play?


Absolutely.

Get shitty with them.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:01 pm to
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It could have arisen from a friendship with another party in that first case… Or antipathy to another party in that earlier case … or on a half-dozen bases unrelated to Trump.


never stop being you, Hank. Occam’s razor need not apply.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:05 pm to
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Why does everyone seem to assume that the earlier recusal arose from some antipathy toward Trump



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It could have arisen from a friendship with another party in that first case… Or antipathy to another party in that earlier case … or on a half-dozen bases unrelated to Trump.


This is correct I think. I’d bet he worked for or with another of the other lawfirms involved

This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 5:06 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:11 pm to
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This is correct I think. I’d bet he worked for or with another of the other lawfirms involved


I dont know. He has been publicly very critical of trump in the last. He has not his his disdain for trump.
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 5:22 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:19 pm to
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never stop being you, Hank. Occam’s razor need not apply.
In your mind, why does Occam dictate that the recusal arose from antipathy to Trump, rather than from amity toward the Clintons, for example?
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 5:20 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58526 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:21 pm to
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In your mind, why does Occam dictate that the recusal arose from antipathy to Trump, rather than from amity toward the Clintons, for example?

When the judge recusing himself because he states he can’t be impartial has made public statements displaying his disdain for Trump.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:36 pm to
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from a practical standpoint, if Reinhardt had recused himself in that earlier case due to antipathy towards Trump, he would’ve done the same thing in this case


You make a lot of assumptions in your posting and this is another. However, I do not know the reason for recusal but to assume a sign off on a warrant is the same as an actual court case may be a bit off and to assume this magistrate is ethical.

With that said, going to Ft Pierce seems a bit odd, however, there is no actual case with the issuance of the warrant to file pleadings so that may be an appropriate federal forum. I just don’t know and it sounds like the judge has her questions.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:40 pm to
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Since the DoJ already HAS the docs, it seems a bit late at this point, unless there is a different reason for the request.



This is the part where I love to say "doesn't that make them knowingly in violation of possession of classified materials?"

ETA: knowingly
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 5:41 pm
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