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re: Trump gaining in the polls.

Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:32 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:32 am to
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Whatever Trumps new campaign manager is doing is working.


I disagree. This is a repudiation of the Radical Left and the lies the media is telling us. Our eyes don't fricking lie when we see buildings on fire with these "Mostly peaceful protests". He just needs to stop saying stupid shite, point at the Left, make a great RNC speech, and destroy Biden in the debates. And if Biden refuses to debate, debate Kanye and have those two shite all over him for 3 nights. That's how Trump wins.
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 11:35 am
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:32 am to
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Trump was never behind in the polls, in fact he is probably well ahead of dog face pony soldier


Exactly. Plus unlike any other election year people are afraid to say they are President trump supporters for fear of backlash. But when they close the curtain to vote they will cast a ballot for President Trump.

MAGA
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
40826 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:33 am to
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the pollsters have done nothing to correct their errors,


Those aren't errors. It's suppression. They have to slowly close the gap as we get closer to the election to appear credible.
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 11:35 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
137062 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:33 am to
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can gain a few points by the debates
I don't believe Biden can afford to share a stage with Trump in the debates. He'll do anything he can to sidestep it.

At his best acuity, he struggled to debate draws with Palin and Ryan.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:34 am to
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Agree. No visible Biden yard signs, bumper stickers, etc... Tons of Trump stuff. In fact, I see more Hillary leftovers than new Biden.



I've seen a few Trump bumper stickers here in Denver, but not a single Biden bumper sticker or sign in their front yard.
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:35 am to
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If Trump can gain a few points by the debates he will start to roll after them.


Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:36 am to
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I don't believe Biden can afford to share a stage with Trump in the debates. He'll do anything he can to sidestep it.



It will be seen as a white flags and liberals (not Leftists) who haven't really been paying attention to Biden will get suspicious and look into it. Plus if Kanye is in the race, have Trump just go debate him, and have the two of them shite all over Biden for 3 nights. It's a win/win as far as I can see.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17118 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:37 am to
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Excuses for Biden no-show frantically being invented.


The brilliant counter to this would be to offer to put a tv monitor on the podium across from Trump while he is there live
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:38 am to
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Fast forward to now, and the pollsters have done nothing to correct their errors, and with a record number conservatives saying they withhold their political opinions to avoid reprisal, and with many conservatives who are ditching social media altogether, you don't have to be Nostradamus to see that "+5 Biden" in any state probably means Trump is even, or possibly even ahead.



I agree. I think the polls are off by at least 5 in every single state, and off by more in others.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31819 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:43 am to
I know downvotes are coming, but we have a real issue that will hurt Trump

the gravy train of $600 a week ending will unfortunately cost Trump and Republicans in general some votes

and NO, that benefit should not be extended, we can't

that should not cost us the election, in fact, unless the left is able to get away with massive fraud, Trump will win in a landslide; but the unemployment stimulus issue does hurt us
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 11:49 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127108 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:44 am to
It was all a farce. He is going to trounce Senile Joe in November.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27678 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:47 am to
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the gravy train of $600 a week ending will unfortunately cost Trump and Republicans in general sme votes



Who won't vote for Trump because of that? Probably not someone who would have voted for him in the first place.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31819 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:51 am to
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Who won't vote for Trump because of that? Probably not someone who would have voted for him in the first place.



people that are not obsessed with politics, consider themselves "centrists" and that are being manipulated by the corrupt and dishonest media that the Bad Orange Man cares more about "the economy" that he does about their life

"I now have to risk my life because Trump and the Republicans don't take the Kung Flu seriously and are taking away MY MONEY"

look, I hate it, but there are people that think like this & are easily manipulated

Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
20142 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:52 am to
I thought polls were fake? Are yours fake or these that show Biden with huge leads?

LINK
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39274 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:53 am to
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They still fall for the CNN/NYT bullshite


What about FOX?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79171 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:53 am to
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 the 5 people that I know that voted Hillary has switched to Trump this time
I want to believe.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:54 am to
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these that show Biden with huge leads

2020: "Biden holds daunting lead over Trump as US election enters final stretch"

Throwback to 2016: "Hillary holds daunting lead over Trump as US election enters final stretch"

What else you got....
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31819 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:55 am to
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Are yours fake or these that show Biden with huge leads?


Trump went up by a lot when the "peaceful protests" were on the news every night

that is why the corrupt and dishonest media quit broadcasting the carnage

this thing is a statistical tie, any poll that says different is lying; but Trump has the edge in EC votes

he would win the popular vote if not for dead and illegal alien votes

just like last time

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79171 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:58 am to
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It always makes me laugh when MAGA hypocrites cite polls to prove their point
I don't believe these polls either. When it takes 50,000+ calls to get 1,000 responses there have to be selection biases at work.

I don't answer any unfamiliar numbers when they pop up on my phone. Most are probably like me in that regard.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12145 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:59 am to
The problem with any poll is it’s sample.

Most pollsters will use last election cycle numbers for national polls and state polls. So if let’s say in the last election, 33% Democrats voted, 29% Republicans voted, and the rest are independents and 3rd party voters. They will call enough people to fill that statistic or a mix that they believe will show up in November. They can also cook the numbers to fit the poll for whoever is paying.

So if I resample the same poll and do 40% Republican, 25% Democrats, and the remainder 3rd party or independents, I can get a poll that should say Donald Trump will win.

What I would like to see be done is a national poll with a large pool of respondents from all 50 states and an Electoral map based on the results with a minimum of 100 respondents per state and the larger states with a maximum of 1000 respondents. In order to do this it would take a lot of effort to shift through the numbers but it would give you a pretty accurate result.
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