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Posted on 11/5/19 at 11:58 am to kingbob
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They only operate because most of those nations only decriminalized drugs but don’t actually make it legal to grow and sell, only use. That emboldens cartels.
You growing Ecstasy? Cocaine? Heroin?
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Go to Colorado or California. No one buys drugs from shady dealers anymore.
Not true at all. 42 arrested across metro Denver in massive black market marijuana bust just this year. Authorities said Friday they raided hundreds of black market marijuana operations in Colorado.
“Today, we realize the black market in Colorado is thriving," Young said.
“They did note vote for the wild west of weed," Brauchler said. "And that’s what we are becoming. And that’s what this investigation has revealed. We cannot put the genie back into the bong. This is going to be an ongoing issue for Colorado moving forward."
That's from this year.
There is more from this year too. In fact every year. What's more important is the move of the cartels into the USA..
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Authorities in Colorado seized $4.2 million worth of pot Thursday at an illegal marijuana farm with ties to a Mexican cartel.
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DENVER — Some Colorado restaurants are tied to Mexican drug lord Joaquin Guzman, also known as “El Chapo,” according to court records filed in Cheyenne, Wyoming. Documents filed Wednesday allege as many as 17 restaurants in Colorado and Wyoming helped El Chapo launder money. Prosecutors state that a Colorado Springs-based food distributor called El Potosino used Mexican restaurants to mix false or inflated sales with legitimate sales. “The scheme’s purpose was to make the illicit drug proceeds appear legitimate,”
So the street market is still there for pot and the Cartels are moving people here to grow it here.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:00 pm to makinskrilla
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probably 100x the size of isis.
ya because we wiped them off the face of the earth just like we would do to the cartels This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:09 pm to Jjdoc
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Not true at all. 42 arrested across metro Denver in massive black market marijuana bust just this year. Authorities said Friday they raided hundreds of black market marijuana operations in Colorado.
I'm gonna chuckle when you realize literally every dealer in LA is considered a black market dealer, so LA could literally went from thousands upon thousands, to "hundreds".
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:12 pm to Jjdoc
Yeah more war is just what we need 
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:15 pm to Jjdoc
The black market will never fully die out especially when the government is currently making marijuana sales a tricky bastard. But please continue to kiss the boots of the DEA and law enforcement who wants weed to stay illegal
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:17 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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Drones?
Fully loaded B-52s?
A handful of well placed MOABs?
exactly, get intell on where they live and where they produce the drugs and drop every old bombs we have on them...(saves money on using the old ones that we'd have to take apart and dispose of) completely obliterate them..
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:20 pm to dawgfan24348
The black market will never completely be eliminated, just like a wall won’t completely stop illegal immigration, but it will eliminate 90% or more of it if the government isn’t stupid enough to tax/regulate the legal industry into the dust
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:25 pm to Jcorye1
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I'm gonna chuckle when you realize literally every dealer in LA is considered a black market dealer,
What does LA have to do with he comment that "nobody" was buying from the streets? They are. I just proved that.
Why would Cartels move into colorado to grow it there? Because there is a market for it.
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Chinese, Cuban and Mexican drug rings have purchased or rented hundreds of homes and use human trafficking to bring inexperienced growers to the United States to tend them, federal and local officials say.
While California and Washington have mainly seen organized criminals from China buying homes and converting them into grow houses, Colorado has largely been grappling with Cuban and Mexican-led cartels, said Sheriff Bill Elder of the El Paso County Sheriff's Office in Colorado.
"They have found that it's easier to grow and process marijuana in Colorado
You see, you will never beat slave labor. And you will never get people to not buy cheaper pot.
One more for you LINK
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The legalization of marijuana in the state of Colorado has not only been good for the local economy, but it has inadvertently helped fuel the business of Mexican drug cartels.
Duque said cartels are now trading drugs like heroin for marijuana, and the trade has since opened the door to drug and human trafficking.
“We have lots of victims. People are victimized whether they are being forced into prostitution, whether they are being kidnapped or just becoming addicts to illegal drug,” said Duque.
And with that, Duque argued, comes money laundering. He said Cartels are often disguising their money through legally purchasing marijuana or buying houses and growing marijuana in it.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:28 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Why did I have top wait until the third page to FINALLY hear the voice of reason? Legalization would cripple the cartels and cut illegal immigration in half. It doesn't cost the tax payer a dime and increases our freedom.
If you think legalizing drugs would put an end to cartel violence or illegal immigration then you aren't paying attention.
Drugs are only a piece of a cartel's portfolio...human trafficking and weapons trafficking are still a big piece of how they make their money.
Legalizing narcotics in the United States doesn't change someone's desire to leave the terrible situation they face in Central and South America.
These aren't just Mexican nationals crossing our border illegally, it's people from Central America and South America.
Just because they are brown doesn't mean they are Mexican.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:30 pm to kingbob
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The black market will never completely be eliminated, just like a wall won’t completely stop illegal immigration, but it will eliminate 90% or more of it if the government isn’t stupid enough to tax/regulate the legal industry into the dust
Right! I mean people still make and sell bootleg liquor, but the liquor industry has largely legitimized since prohibition ended.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:31 pm to kingbob
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The black market will never completely be eliminated, just like a wall won’t completely stop illegal immigration, but it will eliminate 90% or more of it if the government isn’t stupid enough to tax/regulate the legal industry into the dust
Nothing pisses me off more than big gov't conservatives. Say what you will about the socialists, but at least they are philosophically consistent in their love of gov't solutions.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:35 pm to Aubie Spr96
I hate hypocrites of all stripes, and abhor government that seeks to do more than protect property rights and protect citizens from one-another. The issue with too many “small government conservatives” is that deep down, they want the government to protect people from themselves, and that never works, and always results in Government Growing exponentially.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:37 pm to kingbob
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The black market will never completely be eliminated, just like a wall won’t completely stop illegal immigration, but it will eliminate 90% or more of it if the government isn’t stupid enough to tax/regulate the legal industry into the dust
I'm all for legalize pot and I think the way lawmakers have handled the opiate crisis has been a misguided to say the least but are you suggesting we make drugs like fentanyl legal to purchase at dispensaries?
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:42 pm to ThuperThumpin
Yeah, because if people actually had choices of what to buy, they wouldn’t buy fentanyl. The issue is junkies are wanting to buy heroin, but due to the way our government prosecutes drug traffickers, those sellers are adding fentanyl so that they can carry more doses in less volume, which means lower sentences if caught. No one wants fentanyl. They’re trying to buy heroin and getting small quantities of fentanyl mixed in that’s killing them. Dead customers aren’t repeat customers, but you have no customers if you’re in prison.
I say we trust people to make decisions for themselves. We address dependency and addiction at its source, treating it like the medical problem it is (usually resulting from taking legally prescribed drugs that proved to be habit-forming), and let the free market destroy the black market
I say we trust people to make decisions for themselves. We address dependency and addiction at its source, treating it like the medical problem it is (usually resulting from taking legally prescribed drugs that proved to be habit-forming), and let the free market destroy the black market
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:43 pm to ThuperThumpin
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but are you suggesting we make drugs like fentanyl legal to purchase at dispensaries?
Yes, because according to king bob, prohibition made alcohol more dangerous, so if we end prohibition on drugs it makes them safer. Problem solved.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:43 pm to ThuperThumpin
I believe Finland has decriminalized all drugs. For the harder drugs they dont send you to jail but instead you go to rehab. They also administer clean needles to prevent the spread of diseases like HIV and prevent ODs
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:46 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
So, you are willing to trade the sovereignty of our country to avenge the deaths of people who knowing places themselves in harms way in a foreign country?
Maybe you should think a little more long term.
Maybe you should think a little more long term.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:48 pm to kingbob
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I say we trust people to make decisions for themselves. We address dependency and addiction at its source, treating it like the medical problem it is (usually resulting from taking legally prescribed drugs that proved to be habit-forming), and let the free market destroy the black market
Yes I love it.
The problem is that we have not found a truly comprehensive approach to the brain disease of addiction, much less a wide spread curative treatment for addiction. We are already losing to the opioid epidemic. We can’t even regulate Vapes.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 1:01 pm to Jjdoc
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What does LA have to do with he comment that "nobody" was buying from the streets? They are. I just proved that.
You proved that some transactions occur in the black market. I live in CO, and there are dispensaries literally everywhere. Also using CO as a whole is kind of disenginous because not every area of CO actually allows the sale of legal pot, so CO Springs only has black market sales.
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