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re: Tucker Carlson "US could force peace like tonight. They could."

Posted on 7/9/23 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 12:47 pm to
The USA could have used Diplomacy to prevent this war from ever happening, but chose to do nothing.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
54047 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:12 pm to
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Uh, I think you just agreed with me. We have no point in being involved in Ukraine nor any of the aforementioned countries.

No sir. I agree with you that we have to be selective. We clearly do not agree on where to draw the line.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:49 am to
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How
seriously?

If the US tells Ukraine thet have 4 hours to agree to a compromise and peace otherwise we're not going to sent more money or weapons, Ukraine would immediately capitulate. They would have no logical choice.

And it was always going to be that end result anyways.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37987 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:03 am to
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If the US tells Ukraine thet have 4 hours to agree to a compromise and peace
And if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its arse when it hopped. If your hypothetical isn't in the realm of reality, it isn't in the realm of serious discussion.
This post was edited on 7/10/23 at 2:06 am
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
30072 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:39 am to
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This situation in Ukraine is getting serious. Very serious. Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has come right out and stated he's ready to use the nukes.


That does not paint an accurate picture of what Lukashenko said, which was:

"God forbid I have to make a decision to use those weapons today, but there would be no hesitation if we face an aggression"

The last phrase is important.

The concern is based on Russia actually transferring weapons to them, I think there is a less than 50% chance this has or will happen. Putin did the nuclear brinksmanship dance with nuclear weapons for several months until he had a conversation with China and then he shut that down. The implication was they told him to knock it off. By transferring tac nukes to Belerus either real or just lipservice he allowed his lap dog Lukashenko to continue the nuclear yapping. I do not think Putin is dumb enough to hand over even tac nukes to Beleraus given Lukashenko's tenuous hold on power whether threatened by age, health or the democratic rumblings.

Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12853 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:54 am to
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Why? It’s not my homeland.

That's kind of the same way I feel about my money going to Ukraine.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36719 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 6:34 am to
Trump also talks a lot of shite.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13246 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 6:37 am to
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5343 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:23 am to
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And are you willing to hand over Crimea and the border regions permanently to Russia? And isolating Ukraine from the rest of Europe.


The thing that most people miss in this discussion, regardles of their position on the issue:

The 1990-2020 global map has no divine or otherwise right to be considered the defining map of the world. That includes the boundaries of Ukraine, Crimea, Russia, etc...

Consider that Ukraine has, over time, been allied or united with Poland and Lithuania, part of Russia, once was a hegemonous empire of its own that possessed Russia, that Crimea has been a political football possessed by many entities looking for a strategic port...

It's pretty arrogant of us to assume this map is correct when for the vast majority of the past the map did not look like this.

I'm not advocating for or against Ukraine or Russia here, but I'm tired of being involved in someone else's war.

Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12855 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:23 am to
Lol
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