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Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:10 pm to oklahogjr
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Liberals and conservatives are all real Americans
you cant be an American if you hate the US and that's what liberals do, they hate anything American, so libs can go jump off a cliff
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:20 pm to FLTech
That was beautifully written.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:22 pm to jimmy the leg
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would suggest that it transformed when your ilk told normal people that we are bigots for not wanting to suck a “woman’s” penis.
On behalf of my Ilk we don't care if you suck a woman's penis or not. That's your business. If you don't want to you don't have to and that's alright.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:23 pm to Basinhunterfisher
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you cant be an American if you hate the US and that's what liberals do, they hate anything American, so libs can go jump off a cliff
Americans love America and want what's best for it. It's ok to disagree about what we think is best for the country without us hating each other.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:44 pm to oklahogjr
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Liberals and conservatives are all real Americans.
Liberals vote for candidates that support policies such as open borders, stifling of free speech, further infringement of the Second Amendment, outsourcing American manufacturing jobs, exacerbating racism, higher taxes, unprecedented entitlements and the nationalizing of every industry beneath a federal umbrella.
That's not American. That's straight-up Orwellian dystopianism.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:51 pm to TigerAxeOK
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How you feel about a candidates positions is certainly your right. I don't believe that's the case which is my right and have differing opinions on some of those things. Neither of us love America less.
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Liberals vote for candidates that support policies such as open borders, stifling of free speech, further infringement of the Second Amendment, outsourcing American manufacturing jobs, exacerbating racism, higher taxes, unprecedented entitlements and the nationalizing of every industry beneath a federal umbrella.
That's not American. That's straight-up Orwellian dystopianism.
How you feel about a candidates positions is certainly your right. I don't believe that's the case which is my right and have differing opinions on some of those things. Neither of us love America less.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:52 pm to clacker
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TRUMP WON THE DEBATE!
HANDS DOWN
But yet he couldn't name not ONE World Leader that respects him. Yeah that guy from fricking Hungary out of every world wide leader is the hill Trump want to die on. LMAO
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:02 pm to Mandtgr47
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Independent voters are who are flocking to Trump after that debate.
I don’t buy that for a second. There was nothing he did to persuade anybody who wasn’t already voting for him to vote for him. And they were WANTING a reason to. He just wasn’t able to give them one. He got caught up in nonsense and chased irrelevant bait instead of focusing on the issues. And that is very off-putting to some people who don’t think he is a good representative of America to the rest of the world. And that might not matter to you, and you think it shouldn’t matter to anyone. But regardless, it does.
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Independent voters are who are flocking to Trump after that debate.
That was quite predictable, and a big miscalculation by him to not be prepared for it. He could have used it as an advantage. Or called it out in real time. Hell, Muir was basically answering for Kamala in some of his questions. Questions that a judges would have sustained with a quickness after an objection for leading the witness. But either don’t do the debate, prepare for how to combat it, and flip it around to his advantage. I don’t think he took Kamala or the debate seriously enough and felt he could wing it and win on instincts, but he just kept going for the bait and never really called her out on anything specific. He was too busy defending his rallies.
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and besides that, she still has never defined her policies and refused to answer the other night
That was on Trump. Knowing that the moderators weren’t going to—even though they should have—he should have pressed her. But again, his ego wouldn’t allow it. Ran right through pressing her on policy or calmly explain why his fact checks were wrong, he got caught up in the rallies thing too long, defending the start-up money she accused him of getting from his dad (btw, what an easy response that could have been. “Yes, I was lucky to have a hard-working, self-made father who did give me some money as I was beginning my career. But it was only $1 million, and I was able to turn that into a multiple hundred million dollar empire. Through hard work. That is the American dream. Not everyone will be as lucky as I was to be given $1 million, but everyone, in MY America is going to have a chance to work hard and become successful. Whereas Democratic policies are designed to keep generations of families exactly where they are. What exactly are you going to do, why haven’t you done it yet, and where are you going to get the money for it besides taxing even more the hard working Americans who are already facing a terrible economy and outrageous inflation?”
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and knowing Harris was on it it
I’m not sure what you mean by this. Was she probably more comfortable knowing it would be a more friendly pair of moderators? Sure. But they did ask a few tough questions, and I don’t buy that she knew them beforehand. Because she would have had better answers. I’m sure she had a good idea about what questions she would be asked, but so should have Trump. But the tell that she didn’t know all the answers was that she obviously memorized some answers that she thought would sound good and would be what people wanted to hear. But she was so intent on getting them in that she dropped them at weird times that weren’t remotely answers to the actual question she was being asked.
A ton of awkward, misplaced non-sequiturs that Trump should have pointed out that she didn’t answer the question asked, and asked her to please answer the question she was asked. “Madam Vice President, is the country better off today than it was 3 1/2 years ago when your administration took office?” And she’s goes into an “I was born a poor black child…” story that sounded like the beginning to “The Jerk.” Trump could have said, “Well, that’s a nice story and all, but you didn’t answer the question. Do you believe that the country is better off now than it was when i was in office? And if so, could you please give specifics?”
Again, that should have been the moderators job, but Trump was a fool to believe they would be fair and press her. So he should have been prepare to do it himself. He keeps reminding me of a time I was riding back home with my roommate from New Orleans to Austin, and it was pissing rain and he was speeding and tailgating on everybody’s arse. I told him to chill out. He told me to frick off.
And he’s got to move on from the 2020 election. It’s over. Even if he thinks he actually won, at this point, who cares? There is no Time Machine to go back and have him serve from ‘21-‘25. And most people are over it and tired of hearing about it. It’s a loser of an issue. Move on. It ties into the January 6th thing, where the people who consume the MSM have been gaslit to the point where they’re actually worried there won’t be a peaceful exchange of power in ‘29 if he does win. Some loonies actually believe that he won’t leave and will try to become some sort of tyrannical dictator. Even if it’s a lie, just say “I will accept the results of this coming election, and since the Constitution, which I fully believe in and think is sacred does not allow for a 3rd term, I would gladly and gracefully leave the White House on 1/20/29, wish the new President good luck, and retire to Mara Lago and play golf with my granddaughter for the rest of my days.”
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It is unreal that there are actual semi normal people out there that didnt grasp what was going on in the debate the other night with the moderators.
I don’t think anybody who watched that debate, Republican or Democrat didn’t grasp what was going on. Most expected. As should have Trump and been more prepared.
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Thankfully, the undecided realized it and reacted accordingly.
I don’t know what you’ve read that’s made you convince yourself this is actually true. There may have been some “undecideds” who weren’t really undecided that finally admitted in a poll they were going to vote for him. But they were on their way anyway. And I don’t think she was so great as to woo anybody to her side that wasn’t already on it. They just saw enough that she was at least competent in the debate, and they too will admit to voting for her, even though they likely were anyway.
I don’t think he “hurt himself” by losing voters. But he had an opportunity to really dominate her and get some of the people who didn’t love him, but were prepared to hold their noses and vote for him to stay home. And she may have gotten some people who were gonna stay home to come out and hold their noses and vote for her. Or it may not have mattered at all. But I think it could have with a better showing by him. Which is frustrating. Oh well. We’ll see. Still lots of time to go and lots of crazy shite that can still happen.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:24 pm to FLTech
Being mad and angry is not going to attract anyone. He should channel that emotion by explaining why Democrat policies are bad for voters.
It's your money. You wake up, go to work, sacrifice your time to work and make something of yourselves ... And the Democrats tax you on top of taxes and give your money to people who do nothing.
Inflation is higher than it's ever been and much higher than the numbers they are telling you. They want higher wages and your first thought is YEa, that good, I like that. But higher wages to compensate for high inflation cost you more money. Your losing and the government is winning! Higher wages equal higher taxes the government collects. Higher wages equal higher prices which equals higher tax dollars for the government. So while you making more income, your not getting ahead, but the government is making a killing off everything being higher.
Energy prices are higher because the Democrats want you to push investment into wind and solar and everything electric. That is a big loser for you. They short the supply of cheap energy so that the price goes up to what it cost to produce renewables. Renewables will never be a sustainable source for your living needs ... Unless you are ready to give up your conveniences. If you happen to be in the lower income, you are the one that is going to feel it most, because the higher income elites pushing climate change and renewables are going to be able to afford paying more for the conveniences everyone has today. Your the ones that are going to suffer.
Save the planet is bullshi . Its a propaganda campaign to make you think what you have today is wrong. It's the save the planet initiatives that are destroying the planet.
It's your money. You wake up, go to work, sacrifice your time to work and make something of yourselves ... And the Democrats tax you on top of taxes and give your money to people who do nothing.
Inflation is higher than it's ever been and much higher than the numbers they are telling you. They want higher wages and your first thought is YEa, that good, I like that. But higher wages to compensate for high inflation cost you more money. Your losing and the government is winning! Higher wages equal higher taxes the government collects. Higher wages equal higher prices which equals higher tax dollars for the government. So while you making more income, your not getting ahead, but the government is making a killing off everything being higher.
Energy prices are higher because the Democrats want you to push investment into wind and solar and everything electric. That is a big loser for you. They short the supply of cheap energy so that the price goes up to what it cost to produce renewables. Renewables will never be a sustainable source for your living needs ... Unless you are ready to give up your conveniences. If you happen to be in the lower income, you are the one that is going to feel it most, because the higher income elites pushing climate change and renewables are going to be able to afford paying more for the conveniences everyone has today. Your the ones that are going to suffer.
Save the planet is bullshi . Its a propaganda campaign to make you think what you have today is wrong. It's the save the planet initiatives that are destroying the planet.
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:26 pm to FLTech
Trump lost the debate, he knows it, you know it. There was literally nothing he won on, and 60% of it was racist fear mongering that has no basis in reality but yall eat up because you are scared, weak people.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:33 pm to FreddieMac
My god, people. Smell the coffee.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:35 pm to Hot Carl
nobody is reading that wall of text
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:36 pm to Fells
What, exactly, was the racist part?
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:40 pm to ItzMe1972
Only Comrades pose like Comrade Harris did during the debates....
She should be in Hollywood with the other groomers.

She should be in Hollywood with the other groomers.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 6:00 pm to Fells
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60% of it was racist fear mongering that has no basis in reality but yall eat up because you are scared, weak people.
Well, what was the racist part? Come on now, spill it.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 6:00 pm to oklahogjr
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On behalf of my Ilk we don't care if you suck a woman's penis
There is no such thing as a woman’s penis, no matter how many of them you suck.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 6:41 pm to Dalosaqy
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My god, people. Smell the coffee.
Had a cup this morning, your point?
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