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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1016 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:44 pm to
Well you say you are a lawyer. Did the prosecution prove a connection to a felony that would upgrade a misdemeanor past the statute of limitations to a felony? Just look at the trial transcripts. What a joke.
Posted by senshado
Member since Aug 2020
36 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 1:29 pm to
Pretty sure he testified about schemes- schemes to steal from Trump to reimburse for a bonus he didn't like, which he admitted on the stand. Even called it a "scheme". I'm pretty sure Trump wouldn't be in on a scheme to steal from himself.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470964 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 1:32 pm to
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er. Did the prosecution prove a connection to a felony that would upgrade a misdemeanor past the statute of limitations to a felony?

The jury thought so.

Now, the leeway with which they were allowed to do so may not withstand the appeals process, but that's a hypothetical at this point, and I answered your question directly.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470964 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 1:35 pm to
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COHEN created a shell company. COHEN was reimbursed. The invoice was paid exactly as written. The invoice came from COHEN's office. Are you seeing a connection?


What about the coordination with the Trump Organization CFO to inflate the invoice due to the tax implications of this stupid reimbursement scheme?

Why'd you leave that out?

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if I give a lawyer money to do my bidding it's a legal expense or I would not be using a lawyer.

Had they done this directly and properly, there is no avenue for this criminal allegation.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470964 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 1:36 pm to
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A lawyer like cohen will just write it up as legal expenses for his services. It’s that easy and the Trump organization is just gonna pay it because they’re not gonna dig into it too much.


The Trump Organization participated in artificially inflating (and paying) these invoices, so your scenario above isn't applicable.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1016 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 1:16 pm to
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You forgot listing expenses as legal services.

You forgot artificially inflating the "legal services" to account for taxes (which is a big no no for a reimbursement).

You also forgot how Cohen created a shell company to do this, who has no relationship to Trump Corporation, and that company (who made the payment to Daniels) was not reimbursed by Trump Corporation.



Your turd frappe for a brain is boiling. You don't get legal services without expense! I asked you before to provide a legitimate link proving Trump artificially inflating the "legal services"? Trump not being the lawyer cannot set the fees for legal services. So he can not artificially inflate them. COHEN can.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1016 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 1:17 pm to
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The Trump Organization participated in artificially inflating (and paying) these invoices, so your scenario above isn't applicable.


Legitimate link?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24257 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 1:18 pm to
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The case for the misdemeanor is pretty rock solid.


It's non existent
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1016 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 1:20 pm to
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Had they done this directly and properly, there is no avenue for this criminal allegation.


COHEN dreamed it all up, Link to Trump organization CFO inflating the invoice? If in your stinking mess of turd frappe, tell me why no tax charges were introduced over this and why you feel it is important?
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9180 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 1:23 pm to
Where was the ledger entry in Trump Corporate Docs

There was none. Zero evidence.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1016 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

he jury thought so.

Now, the leeway with which they were allowed to do so may not withstand the appeals process, but that's a hypothetical at this point, and I answered your question directly.



You do know that the jurors were chosen to be called in using the information on their voter registration cards right? Read the transcripts, no felony anywhere spoken of that would raise a past the statute of limitations misdemeanor to a felony. In fact you have to try pretty hard to connect any of the indictments to any of the testimony.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58239 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 1:25 pm to
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Those without his signature had testimony from a slew of people indicating that Trump gave direction to falsify the documents.


Who, specifically, said this?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58239 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 1:26 pm to
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For the election stealing court cases they were civil suits. They where thrown out because there wasn't enough evidence even to warrant a civil trial. That's actually kind of hard to get to unless you really have no evidence.


The vast majority of them were thrown out on procedural issues, not evidentiary.

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With the election stuff there was an incredible scarcity of evidence that showed likelihood that the election was stolen in any way. Forget proof, there wasn't even anything suggesting election theft occurred.


This is just incorrect. Either you’re not a lawyer or you are ignorant to the facts. You’re probably not the right person to lecture on these matters.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1016 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 1:27 pm to
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“As far as I can tell during”

Did you sleep at a holiday inn express


Read the trial transcripts and get back to me simp.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
20180 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 1:44 pm to
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The convicted felon serial liar with an axe to grind against the defendant? What a witness


People on here feel because Cohen pled guilty, therefore the scheme is criminal!!
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 2:14 pm to
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during the whole trial no effort was made to connect the indictments with evidence of any sort.


They had weeks of evidentiary witnesses confirming that Trump signed the checks, and they were false, and were in furtherance of other crimes, etc.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
87347 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 2:31 pm to
Oh man Bama what a kill shot!

My wife signs checks at her business is she culpable for every transaction?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 2:54 pm to
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My wife signs checks at her business is she culpable for every transaction?


If she signs every check? And is the only person able to sign the checks? And she knowingly signs checks that are false? In New York?

Yeah, she should probably stop doing that.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37206 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 2:58 pm to
Yes or no question

Was this trial completely above board and non politically motivated, and truly just an attempt at justice for the people of New York?

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