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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:25 am to
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:25 am to
Yes. Megadeth also. Dance in the Rain.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15057 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:29 am to
James leans libertarian. As a SF native he saw the insanity first-hand.

Lars is an idiot, likely a lib.
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
3671 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:33 am to
As a lifelong rasslin'fan and a big Metallica fan, I've always been intrigued by the shirt Hetfield's wearing in this clip.

Metallica has a song titled "The Four Horsemen" on their first album, and the logo on this shirt strongly resembles the one used by Ric Flair and company in the late 80s.

Did the rasslin' folks cop this design for their own use, or vice versa?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:33 am to
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James leans libertarian. As a SF native he saw the insanity first-hand. Lars is an idiot, likely a lib.


So both are idiots
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11509 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:41 am to
J6 sham trials/ indefinite detentions, Multiple bullshite impeachments, FBI raiding home of Trump...

quote:

...And Justice for All Lyrics
[Verse 1]
Halls of justice painted green, money talking
Power wolves beset your door, hear them stalking
Soon you'll please their appetite they devour
Hammer of justice crushes you, overpower

[Pre-Chorus]
The ultimate in vanity
Exploiting their supremacy
I can't believe the things you say
I can't believe, I can't believe the price
You pay

[Chorus]
Nothing can save you
Justice is lost, justice is raped, justice is gone
Pulling your strings, justice is done
Seeking no truth, winning is all
Find it so grim, so true, so real

[Verse 2]
Apathy their stepping stone, so unfeeling
Hidden deep animosity, so deceiving
Through your eyes their light burns, hoping to find
Inquisition sinking you with prying minds


[Verse 3]
Lady justice has been raped, truth assassin
Rolls of red tape seal your lips, now you're done in
Their money tips her scales again, make your deal
Just what is truth? I cannot tell, cannot feel



[Outro]
Seeking no truth, winning is all
Find it so grim, so true, so real



quote:

Eye of the Beholder Lyrics
[Verse 1]
Do you see what I see? Truth is an offense
You silence for your confidence
Do you hear what I hear? Doors are slamming shut
Limit your imagination, keep you where they must
Do you feel what I feel? Bittering distress
Who decides what you express?
Do you take what I take? Endurance is the word
Moving back instead of forward seems to me absurd

[Pre-Chorus]
Doesn't matter what you see
Or intuit what you read
You can do it your own way
If it's done just how I say
[Chorus]
Independence limited
Freedom of choice is made for you, my friend
Freedom of speech is words that they will bend
Freedom with their exception

[Verse 2]
Do you fear what I fear? Living properly
Truths to you are lies to me
Do you choose what I choose? More alternatives
Energy derives from both the plus and negative
Do you need what I need? Boundaries overthrown
Look inside, to each his own
Do you trust what I trust? Me, myself and I
Penetrate the smoke screen, I see through the selfish lie

[Pre-Chorus]
Doesn't matter what you see
Or intuit what you read
You can do it your own way
If it's done just how I say

[Chorus]
Independence limited
Freedom of choice is made for you, my friend
Freedom of speech is words that they will bend
Freedom with their exception
[Guitar Solo]

[Verse 3]
Do you know what I know? Your money and your wealth
You silence just to hear yourself
Do you want what I want? Desire not a thing
I hunger after independence, lengthen freedom's ring

[Pre-Chorus]
Doesn't matter what you see
Or intuit what you read
You can do it your own way
If it's done just how I say

[Chorus]
Independence limited
Freedom of choice is made for you, my friend
Freedom of speech is words that they will bend
Freedom no longer frees you

[Outro]
Doesn't matter what you see
Or intuit what you read
You can do it your own way
If it's done just how I say
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 9:44 am
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:58 am to
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Nah, they're from the Bay Area.


James is from Downey in LA county. My wife did a travel assignment at the hospital in Downey that he was born at.

Downey has gone downhill in the past several years. My wife left that hospital after 13 weeks and went to a different one in Torrance.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15057 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:47 am to
quote:

James is from Downey in LA county.


That's where he was born, but Metallica basically became a SF band not long after formation and James called SF home for decades before it completely devolved.
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19832 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Was Metallica insurrectionists?


They are the Vanilla Ice of Pop Metal
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
36725 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Was Metallica insurrectionists?

Listen to the "And Justice for All" album. Particularly the title track, and "Eye of the Beholder".

James Hetfield saw, in 1988, what many of us are only seeing now. I grew up jamming that stuff on guitar but it was a couple decades later before I realized the profundity of the message. The entire album has an underlying political/societal feel.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21268 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 12:14 pm to
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That's where he was born, but Metallica basically became a SF band not long after formation and James called SF home for decades before it completely devolved.


Metallica started in LA. They moved to San Fran because they wanted Cliff Burton in the band and that was the only way he’d join.

Also James leans conservative, Lars is definitely the artsy liberal, Kirk lives in Hawaii and probably has the most successful business ventures outside of Metallica and Rob probably leans very hard left considering the fact that his wife does.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 12:18 pm
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 12:18 pm to
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Don't know if I'd consider James to be "right wing


You haven't been keeping up, Powerman...

Everything that's not in line with the world of emotional tempertantrums is right wing.

You need to own that shite.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 12:20 pm to
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Lars may be a douche, but he’s very self-aware.


Does he also know he sucks on the drums?
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17112 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 12:28 pm to
I’ve always found James Hetfield weirdly hot. It’s great to know we also agree on politics.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17112 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

And Justice for All" album.


Love in every way
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Member since Aug 2014
11522 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 12:32 pm to
Yeah I was 13 when it came out. I wore that cassette tape out and had to buy another.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172179 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 12:34 pm to
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You haven't been keeping up, Powerman...

Everything that's not in line with the world of emotional tempertantrums is right wing.

You need to own that shite.

According to an extremist sure

Not much different than the Trump cult here

Half of them will throw stones at you and accuse you of being a democratic plant if you even mention anything good about Desantis

Extremists are dumb. I don't know what to tell you
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15057 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Metallica started in LA. They moved to San Fran


That's what I said.
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
4344 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

If you don a mullet and/or brandish the American flag you are a MAGA Republican


"And", probably, but not "or".

quote:

If you like country music,


Country's roots are pretty deep in folk, which is traditionally pro-labor. Plus feminist country has been a huge part of the genre forever (Patsy Cline, Loretta Lynn, Dolly Parton, Reba, Emmylou Harris). Hank Sr had some fairly progressive moments (The Funeral humanizing black life in the 50s), Steve Earle, John Prine both progressive. Willie, obviously. Edit: that's not even getting into modern country which is predominantly left-leaning (outside of pop-country which I don't really know much about, but its basically Hick-Hop so I dunno)

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If you invoke the name of God, you are a MAGA Republican.


If it's tied to politics, certainly.

quote:

If you own personal firearms as a civilian, you are a MAGA Republican.


Yall really underestimate how many people on the left own guns. Hell, the SRA has been growing a good bit.

quote:

If you believe in marriage as that between a man and a woman, you are a MAGA Republican.



Almost definitely.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 2:26 pm
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
26544 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 2:30 pm to
Speaking of classic albumn covers most don’t realize this is a guitar

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74396 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 2:43 pm to
I was recently told by a liberal that Metallica early stuff is left wing and the left claims them. I don't know the truth, just passing along.
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