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Posted on 8/31/23 at 12:31 pm to Privateer 2007
quote:Intellectually, I know that only about 45% of US households own a gun, but (and maybe this is just a function of being in Texas) I have trouble emotionally accepting that the number is that low. If we include both handguns for personal protection and hunting weapons, exactly ONE of my friends and close acquaintances does not own at least one.
What percentage of J6 prisoners were gun owners? I'd guess over 75%
As to your specific question, 66% of GOP households own a gun. The percent at the Jan-06 rally was probably close to that.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 1:25 pm to Paddyshack
quote:
You talking about Ray Epps? Also why hasn’t Trump or anyone else been charged with insurrection?
Didn’t Joey Biggs from Proud Boy fame just get 17 years for Seditious Conspiracy? That’s a long time to be in jail because of a LARP?
Supposedly he was crying in court and his attorney said that it wasn’t fair Trump hasn’t been indicted on the same charges.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 1:32 pm to VOR
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They figured sheer numbers could disrupt and stop the proceedings.
You're not very bright, are you?
Posted on 8/31/23 at 2:25 pm to Motownsix
"Didn’t Joey Biggs from Proud Boy fame just get 17 years for Seditious Conspiracy? That’s a long time to be in jail because of a LARP?"
"Supposedly he was crying in court and his attorney said that it wasn’t fair Trump hasn’t been indicted on the same charges."
Coming from a PB, it is disgusting what they are doing to those men. There was no conspiracy to "overthrow the government", I know that for sure. I wasn't there that day, and wasn't even a member then, but I know people that were. None of them were armed. They all say the same thing. Ray Epps, and about 20-30 Antifa, dressed in blackout and tac gear led the charge into the capitol. PBs were there to do what PB always does at rallies. Provide security for the MAGA mom protesters from Antifa commie thugs.
"Supposedly he was crying in court and his attorney said that it wasn’t fair Trump hasn’t been indicted on the same charges."
Coming from a PB, it is disgusting what they are doing to those men. There was no conspiracy to "overthrow the government", I know that for sure. I wasn't there that day, and wasn't even a member then, but I know people that were. None of them were armed. They all say the same thing. Ray Epps, and about 20-30 Antifa, dressed in blackout and tac gear led the charge into the capitol. PBs were there to do what PB always does at rallies. Provide security for the MAGA mom protesters from Antifa commie thugs.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 2:48 pm to BigWillieStyle18
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They all say the same thing. Ray Epps, and about 20-30 Antifa, dressed in blackout and tac gear led the charge into the capitol.
Of course they do.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 2:59 pm to cwill
If Trump supporters were as dangerous as you groomers claim, wouldn’t there have been mass casualties across the US by now? Last I checked, it is still your fellow Democrats that commit the vast majority of violent crime in this country.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:09 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
You're strawmanning real hard. The strawman of the listless vessels. 
This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:47 pm to cwill
Facts are hard!
Posted on 8/31/23 at 4:18 pm to Motownsix
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I really don’t get this take. Trump invited them to DC. He practically begged on Twitter for people to come. He certainly pointed the crowd toward the capitol. Are we still saying the crowd was all Antifa dressed as MAGA? Is the thinking they were all fed agents in disguise? The 2k people arrested don’t fit either profile.
Well, in reference to your previous post,
nobody ever accused you of being smart either.
"Are we still saying the crowd was all Antifa dressed as MAGA?"
Who the hell said that? Nobody.
Are you still saying that none of the crowd was Antifa, or Antifa dressed as MAGA?
There's proof of both via video, pics, eyewitness accounts, and admissions.
You really don't know jacksh*t about what happened that day, do you?
But your version is so much easier to believe, isn't it?
I'm not gonna waste any more effort trying to convince you that you're wrong by linking to a ton of vids or posting a bunch of pics...if you wanted the truth you wouldn't have stopped looking on Jan 7th.
Here's a little tidbit for you, that CelticDog was foolish enough to challenge me on...
There were Ukrainians on site as well, including Sergei Dybynyn of the Pravy Sektor and medal recipient for his "activities" in Luhansk Ukraine, where he also has a warrant for his arrest.
Here he is with someone you just might recognize...
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(red box is Google translation inserted by me)
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 4:45 pm to 2020_reVISION
Don’t forget the Antifa plant that recorded the incident with the woman (who wasn’t armed) was shot. Admitted plant that openly bragged about his role.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 4:49 pm to Nosevens
If they wanted to take over instead of just protesting, they could have without weapons.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 4:50 pm to cwill
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You're strawmanning real hard.
The topic of the OP was regarding what percentage of Trump supporters own guns, and why didn’t they really use them at the “insurrection”.
For going on 9 years now, all we have heard is how violent these people are, yet the statistics do not back up this claim. How is that a straw man?
Again, if Trump supporters are as violent as you and your ilk claim, why weren’t more people shot on 1/6? Why aren’t the streets covered in casualties due to these gun owners?
This isn’t a difficult concept to grasp, yet you and others struggle with it.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:43 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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Again, if Trump supporters are as violent as you and your ilk claim,
I will argue with you about the things I say/post, but I will properly refer to your arguments as a listless strawman when they don’t address my arguments and refer to statements of others that you want to attribute to me bc that’s easier for you.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:44 pm to Jbird
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JbirdFacts are hard!
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:31 pm to VOR
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They had no appetite for an actual firefight with guns. That would have been suicidal. They figured sheer numbers could disrupt and stop the proceedings.
It was a protest.
If the American people ever decided to participate in an insurrection D.C. would be leveled.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:35 pm to Privateer 2007
Posted on 8/31/23 at 9:03 pm to cwill
quote:
I'm crediting them with being slightly less dumb than their actions showed them to be.
No, you're pretending to be a mind reader. And a shitty one at that.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 10:25 pm to BigWillieStyle18
quote:
Coming from a PB, it is disgusting what they are doing to those men. There was no conspiracy to "overthrow the government", I know that for sure. I wasn't there that day, and wasn't even a member then, but I know people that were. None of them were armed. They all say the same thing. Ray Epps, and about 20-30 Antifa, dressed in blackout and tac gear led the charge into the capitol. PBs were there to do what PB always does at rallies. Provide security for the MAGA mom protesters from Antifa commie thugs.
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