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re: Whatcha Think About Trump Making Incandescents Legal Again?
Posted on 9/6/19 at 6:00 pm to AUstar
Posted on 9/6/19 at 6:00 pm to AUstar
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Trump just rolled back the ban on incandescent light bulbs. Obama outlawed any bulb over 60 Watts, leaving only LED's and CFL's.
Well, incadescents don't contain mercury so they're better for the environment.
Guess the libs are okay with contaminating our environment.
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Posted on 9/6/19 at 6:02 pm to CelticDog
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Its not as bad as rolling back requirements for good mileage cars but its good for billy bob's vote.
Maybe we should ban private jets then. All the rich celebrity leftists clamoring to save the environment will surely get behind that right?
You're pretty full of shite huh?
Posted on 9/6/19 at 6:04 pm to WorkinDawg
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literally laughed out loud when Obama outlawed regular bulbs. Someone broke an LED, called poison control about how to clean it up. Poison control sent in dudes with Hazmat suits....you can't make this shite up.
You should tell them next time that LEDs contain no hazardous materials. It's a circuit board pretty much.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 6:05 pm to AUstar
quote:if they are better than the government shouldn't have to encourage anybody to use them. How is that not self-explanatory
I think it's a bad move for Trump. LED's are better in every way that the old incandescents. I mean it's not a huge deal that I'm going to cry over, but we should encourage people to switch to LED's
Posted on 9/6/19 at 6:09 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Most people are slow to try new things, especially if they are as expensive as early CFLs.
if they are better than the government shouldn't have to encourage anybody to use them. How is that not self-explanatory
Now, it is like seat belts. I was pissed when they became mandatory, but if that law were changed tomorrow, I would still use them and make my kids do so.
This post was edited on 9/6/19 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 9/6/19 at 6:14 pm to Smeg
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They push these things with the lie that they last 10+ years. bullshite. If that were true, I wouldn't have had to replace any of them yet.
Mostly because they had to lower price by skimping on heat sinks. So the newer bulbs are more cheaply made than the old $20 bulbs from, say, 2010. Some of it is also probably due to planned obsolescence.
Keep an LED cool, and it will run 20 years easy.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 6:23 pm to AggieHank86
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Most people are slow to try new things, especially if they are as expensive as early CFLs
I'm aware
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Now, it is like seat belts. I was pissed when they became mandatory, but if that law were changed tomorrow, I would still use them and make my kids do so.
I don't see light bulbs as a safety issue
If the product is better people will tend to buy it over time. Will they all buy it tomorrow? Of course not. Of course that's a feature not a bug to capitalism and markets
Posted on 9/6/19 at 6:27 pm to ShortyRob
I hate these new bulbs. They don’t have the so-called life and cost much more.
Trump helping out the poor man again.,
Trump helping out the poor man again.,
Posted on 9/6/19 at 6:52 pm to WorkinDawg
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I literally laughed out loud when Obama outlawed regular bulbs. Someone broke an [CFL], called poison control about how to clean it up. Poison control sent in dudes with Hazmat suits....you can't make this shite up.
I remember a video from the floor debate and Republican congressman's speech which discussed, amongst other things, that the incandescent light bulbs was one of the greatest American inventions in history, then on to reference needing Hazmat suits if you broke them.
I opposed the government mandate because it was probably just typical crony capitalism deal between GE and the Jug Ears administration and the dims in congress to make us buy more expensive crap that would enrich the libs at GE.
My recollection of the dim talking point was that these bulbs would help millions of Americans reduce their carbon footprint and combat global warming. I have been trying for years to make my carbon footprint as big as possible because CO2 is plant food and antropogenic global warming is a hoax.
So I opposed the ban on those grounds as well.
This post was edited on 9/6/19 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 9/6/19 at 6:54 pm to CelticDog
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Its not as bad as rolling back requirements for good mileage cars but its good for billy bob's vote.
fricking bigot
Posted on 9/6/19 at 6:54 pm to AUstar
I would prefer a law against planned obsolescence like the French have, and this problem would take care of itself. Incandescents can last a lot longer if they were made with higher grade materials.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 7:09 pm to Smeg
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That's one thing that really pisses me off. They push these things with the lie that they last 10+ years. bullshite. If that were true, I wouldn't have had to replace any of them yet.
It’s sorta a lie, sorta not. Everybody got a chubby about LEDs because they do last that long, but unfortunately they need a circuit board to work, and the circuit board most assuredly don’t always have that lifespan.
The main thing I don’t like about them (although I use them almost exclusively) is that if you have multibulb fixtures, and who doesn’t, matching the color when one craps out is a pita.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 7:10 pm to AUstar
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I think it's a bad move for Trump. LED's are better in every way that the old incandescents.
You may be too young to remember when Jimmy Carter lowered the speed limit to 55 mph in order to save fuel. Now if you drive 55 some trucker driving 89 mph will run over you.
When government makes stupid laws it usually just a waste.
I like LED lights but I shouldn't be prevented from buying incandescent if I have a need for one.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 7:29 pm to AUstar
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but we should encourage people to switch to LED's. They will save you about 75% on your light bill, perform just as well and last longer.
If they’re better then they will naturally win in the free market. No reason for Govt involvement
Posted on 9/6/19 at 7:30 pm to frankthetank
Been burning since 1901
Posted on 9/6/19 at 7:47 pm to AUstar
For pure lighting per watt led is the king
That aid incandescent lighting has many good used
That aid incandescent lighting has many good used
Posted on 9/6/19 at 7:55 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Incandescents can last a lot longer if they were made with higher grade materials.
Called rough service incandescents and they've always been available. Uneducated consumers are the problem, as usual.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:07 pm to AUstar
quote:They may use less electricity, but I’m not convinced they last any longer.
They will save you about 75% on your light bill, perform just as well and last longer.
I can’t tell you how many $7-$10 LED light bulbs I’ve had to replace after a couple months that went out.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:08 pm to AUstar
LED's never last as long as the manufacturers claim. They are almost made entirely of plastic, so all those LED bulbs thrown away are going to add more garbage to landfills.
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:09 pm to CelticDog
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its good for billy bob's vote.
Hey dickhead. My sister, who was once an attorney, cannot tolerate the light or sound of any lights other than incandescent bulbs. She has brain cancer. We had to buy a pallet of normal bulbs before Obama changed shite. We were running out so I’m glad Trump changed it. You can frick right off.
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