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Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:45 pm to
MAGA has become neocon regime change scumbags.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
6372 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:50 pm to
We should have spent our blood, fortune and honor and invaded Cuba in October 1962 and killed the communists there rather than going halfway around the world to do it.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142527 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:54 pm to
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MAGA has become neocon regime change scumbags.


We aren’t regime changing baw. The people of Venezuela already changed regimes. We would just be giving the democratic process a nudge.

As far as Cuba, it would fail as soon as Venezuela cut the oil off.

Would you support the Trump Monroe Doctrine?
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41486 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:46 pm to
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We would just be giving the democratic process a nudge.

Lol. Why should the average American give a damn whether Venezuela is a democracy? And please describe this "nudge".
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142527 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:51 pm to
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And please describe this "nudge".


Mostly economic pressure.

Venezuela’s Air Force consists of maybe 10 very old aircraft and 4 frigates for the Navy. We aren’t going to war with them.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
1969 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:56 pm to
This Venezuela has been 25-years in the making.
Posted by rileytiger
Surfing The Gulf of America
Member since Feb 2007
4272 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 11:22 pm to
You don’t know that. You also don’t know the level of damage Venezuela has done to our country. Between Drugs, rigging elections, and bringing us their worst of the worst via open borders there is a lot to it. The other thing that I question is why are the democrats and R Paul crying over it. I bet they are on the Maduro payroll.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19335 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:13 am to
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Venezuela might’ve had such a brain drain that it may be unrecoverable on anyones lifetime.


Very astute observation Stat. I was talking with a fella in his 30s, college grad he works for one of the few oligarchs there. He said there are two types of people there.

First, his boss who is "asset" rich. He has the national beer and breweries, Coca cola plants, dozens of other manufacturing businesses.

Second, the dirt poor who live off the government.

He said there is very little middle class, they left, both college educated and those with skill set experience. He said his graduating class from University is now in the US or Europe. His best friend moved to Miami under Chavez (before Maduro). He married a great American, has a great job, has two kids who are almost teenagers, they are American not Venezuelan.

This will end soon and the oil spigot will be turned on. Just remember there is only one United States, and dozens of oil rich Nigerian shatholes.

I wish Machado luck and the grace of God.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142527 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:23 am to
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trinidadtiger


I saw you at the Jake Paul fight.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:27 am to
It would be amazing if both places were freed of the communist BS.

My woman still owns a house in Caracas. I’d have a simmer home if Venezuala is free’d, sounds crazy but true.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19335 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:34 am to
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Cuba is dependent on Venezuela for energy.


Cheap, cheap energy, as were some of the other Caribbean countries like St. Vincent.

Not anymore, now all the energy that can be spared is going to chini. Its really really put Cuba in a tough spot. Lots of rolling blackouts, the long lines at gas stations are not for gas.......but for the air pumps to inflate the tires on their backs.

Tourism is suffering because its tough to get a great meal, and even then careful of the quality due to the rolling blackouts and lack of refrigeration.

When I was with Pepsi the car service from the Miami airport to the office, bout an hour, I got to know one of the drivers, Cuban. He busted his arse at two jobs and sent it all to Cuba. He said, anything to keep his teenage daughter from chasing those "tourist dollars". He then showed me a picture of her. Lets just say she could have been a star performer on Epstein island.

Last time he picked me up he was so happy. His wife and daughter had gotten out, he had moved to a nice apt, room for his daughter, she cried when she saw her new computer and cell. Took the wife to Publix, he said it was like watching a kid at Disney, just walking from aisle to aisle crying. He said baby there is one like this on every block..... welcome to America.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142527 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:46 am to
I don’t think people realize Cuba is on the verge of collapsing.

Everyone is focused on Venezuela fishermen
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19335 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:52 am to
Westbank showing his latin influence with "my woman". In spanish the word for woman is mujer. Mi mujer would be my woman. But it is so common in latin America, particularly Venezuela, that if you key it into google translate it comes back "my wife". Its not chauvinistic, and more endearing than saying mi esposa which is the very formal way of saying your wife (similar to saying my spouse).

Back to the show, Cuba is in a worse crisis than the 90s when the soviets collapsed. They were able to rebound with the cheap oil from Venezuela. Chavez was even sending enough so they could resell the excess to help finances. All that is gone now and they say its the worst crisis since their independence in 1902.

There are 11 million people there and in the last five years they estimate 1 to 2 million have left. The govt has given up trying to stop them, hell they cant feed them. For the first time in history they have asked the UN to help feed them.

Now I wonder what will happen to those US assets seized during the revolution when Cuba falls. Take a guess who "technically" owns the power company in Cuba.....

quote:

Current Claim Holder: Through a series of corporate mergers and acquisitions decades later, the legal rights to the original certified claim for the Cuban Electric Company eventually came into the possession of the American office supply retailer Office Depot (specifically through its acquisition of OfficeMax).
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
AggieHank Alter
Member since Oct 2025
2968 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:57 am to
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When Venezuela and Cuba return to functional democracies….
"return?"

Invest in a history book.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19335 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:06 am to
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quote:
trinidadtiger


I saw you at the Jake Paul fight.


Nah I missed that jaw dropping.....breaking event
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
2660 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:01 am to
Zelensky in Ukraine is every bit as bad as Maduro. Main difference is Maduro isnt washing US $$.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
10378 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:06 am to
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We act like foreign entanglements are our way of spreading "freedom" and will create a democracy in these far off lands, maybe "rescue" their people.


True democracy has never been tried in those countries. It'll be different this time.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4128 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:32 am to
There are a million other things more concerning to me than Cuba and Venezuela
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6010 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:37 am to
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Cuba has never been a "functional" democracy even before Castro.

Bautista was something of a dictator.


It was a CIA client state run by the New York mob in reality
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142527 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:18 am to
Discord said you watching it.
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