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Posted on 1/23/24 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8996 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 3:14 pm to
I previously was a Democrat, but now I'd identify as a Never Trumper.

I think that the economy would be better under Biden. Above all else markets hate uncertainty, and there's no telling what kind of senile delusional shite Trump could pull with a second term and without enough handlers.

The American economy has actually fared better than just about all other OCED countries since COVID. How people think that Donald Trump will just magically come in and wave his hands like a Jedi and magically make everything go back to 2019 prices is just ditzy and retarded and Easter Bunny-like. Prices aren't going backwards. Ten Allen Greenspans could be president and prices still aren't going back to where they were.

People are looking for a political savior. Unfortunately they do not exist. I prefer self-determination over hoping that a new president will make my life all better.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 3:18 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
11915 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 3:20 pm to
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How people think that Donald Trump will just magically come in and waive his hands like a Jedi and magically make everything go back to 2019 prices is just ditzy and retarded and Easter Bunny-like.


I'm sure there are Cultist who think that, but I don't think that's most people's expectation.

I think most people just want a president who isn't actively working against the economy, which Biden is. From his refusal to issue drilling permits and licenses to his rolling back out the excessive regulatory landscape that Obama rolled out to his releasing of money into the general supply.

For example, are you aware that in the past 2+ years the money supply has increased by 41%?

That kind of fiscal policy is guaranteed to cause or exacerbate inflation.

Pretty much everything he does is like that.

It's like dropping your cell phone. No one wants that to happen, and with COVID the cell phone got dropped regardless of who is in the WH.

But instead of picking it up, brushing it off, and putting it back in his pocket, Biden stomped on it, kicked it down the block, and then pissed on it.

I think most people just want someone who won't do that.
Posted by heymama
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2022
428 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 3:30 pm to
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I previously was a Democrat, but now I'd identify as a Never Trumper.



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I think that the economy would be better under Biden.


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. I prefer self-determination


You would be more accurate if you identified as a lying, drooling moron.

Biden and the Democrats are gdamned fascists.

You don't get to "self-determine" under fascist rule, you fking idiot.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 3:31 pm to
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Join the club!


Fking idiots love the company of other fking idiots..
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26450 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 3:31 pm to
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How people think that Donald Trump will just magically come in and wave his hands like a Jedi and magically make everything go back to 2019 prices is just ditzy and retarded and Easter Bunny-like.


This has already been said....in 2016....and it was proven wrong then too.


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Mr. Obama asserted that “some of those jobs of the past are just not going to come back.” “When somebody says . . . that he’s going to bring all these jobs back, well, how exactly are you going to do that? What are you going to do?,” Mr. Obama asked. “There’s no answer to it. . . . What magic wand do you have?”

Posted by heymama
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2022
428 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 4:00 pm to
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Fking idiots love the company of other fking idiots.

Yes, absolutely! I haven't been around here long, but noticed that pretty quickly!
Posted by heymama
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2022
428 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 4:07 pm to
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Biden and the Democrats are gdamned fascists

Need a dictionary? Fascism is on the far-right on the political spectrum.
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You don't get to "self-determine" under fascist rule, you fking idiot.

Is this why we ABSOLUTELY MUST get behind Trump?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16860 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 4:16 pm to
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I'll exaggerate for clarity. If North America was populated by 100 people do you think they would need any stop signs?
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Adjusted for inflation, federal spending per person has grown from $4,333 in 1965 to $19,594 in 2023.
Posted by Sailjuggernaut
Member since Jan 2024
259 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 4:32 pm to
How about the developer, or the HOA?
Posted by Sailjuggernaut
Member since Jan 2024
259 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 4:41 pm to
You can point out a couple of similarities but that doesn't make your take correct. There are way more differences such as legal vs. illegal, need vs no need, institution of welfare/healthcare, etc.

There are tons of things we did in the past. Does that mean we should do them now?

Then there is the question of where do we stop allowing immigration. Is it when 2/3 of all poor are allowed to be on the taxpayer safety net?
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 5:33 pm to
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A lot of conservatives, like me,

It will never make sense why you dumbasses feel the need to lie about who and what you are.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 5:36 pm to
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I think that the economy would be better under Biden. Above all else markets hate uncertainty, and there's no telling what kind of senile delusional shite Trump could pull with a second term and without enough handlers.

Youre another stupid person with another invalid opinion. Aka, a progressive.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87447 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 5:38 pm to
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How people think that Donald Trump will just magically come in and wave his hands like a Jedi and magically make everything go back to 2019 prices is just ditzy and retarded and Easter Bunny-like.


Is that you Obama?

Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20958 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 5:39 pm to
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Who here is a Democrat and can honestly say


Oxymoron!
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87447 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 5:41 pm to
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Need a dictionary? Fascism is on the far-right on the political spectrum.


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Fascism rejects assertions that violence is inherently negative or pointless, instead viewing imperialism, political violence, and war as means to national rejuvenation.[11][12] Fascists often advocate for the establishment of a totalitarian one-party state,



Todays left.


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usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews,


Todays left

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Some opposition groups have adopted the label anti-fascist or antifa to signify their stance.


By using violence


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Historian John Lukacs argues that there is no such thing as generic fascism.


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Historian Ian Kershaw once wrote that "trying to define 'fascism' is like trying to nail jelly to the wall."[



If you want to get into Bidens rhetoric, replace maga republicans with Jews, or blacks, or communists.





This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
2159 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 6:37 pm to
I have long considered myself to be a democrat, but not sure where I am now. I know this, I can’t stand Trump, and while I have and will vote for republicans, I’ll never vote for Trump. My thoughts for anyone that cares:

I support military spending but think it’s very, very wasteful and can lead to the tail wagging the dog. Need scrutiny by an effective congress.

I oppose intervention except when sanctioned by a larger group (enough going alone).

I support Ukraine.

I don’t support Palestine or Israel. Too complicated.

I don’t support abortion but am vehemently against making it illegal.

Citizens united was bullshite.

Support gay rights.

Skeptical of trans identity, at least the way it is now.

Universities are important but need more ideological diversity and spend too much money on activities that don’t affect instruction or research.

I want the border secured, but think we also need scientifically managed immigration for low skilled work. Also, immigration is a dominant factor in driving up housing costs, particularly for the low income.

No interest in importing religious fundamentalists, including hijabi Muslims. Folks at the southern border need to be vetted.

Unions can be good, but can also affect employment when trading with low wage countries and there are no tariffs. Tariffs can be good in some sectors, but not for basic goods and necessities. Public unions are stupid.

Strong separation of Church and state.

Environmental problems and climate change are real and can be solved. Avoid targeting food and food delivery.

More support for science and reliance on evidence based approaches.

Posted by FreeState
Member since Jun 2012
3584 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 6:56 pm to
Me. Been registered as a democrat 50+ years. Last democrat I voted for nationally was Bill Clinton. And I don't think poor Joe is physically or mentally capable. He's done.

It's a damn shame our country can't come up with decent candidates.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8996 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 7:15 pm to
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I support military spending but think it’s very, very wasteful and can lead to the tail wagging the dog. Need scrutiny by an effective congress.

I oppose intervention except when sanctioned by a larger group (enough going alone).

I support Ukraine.

I don’t support Palestine or Israel. Too complicated.

I don’t support abortion but am vehemently against making it illegal.

Citizens united was bullshite.

Support gay rights.

Skeptical of trans identity, at least the way it is now.

Universities are important but need more ideological diversity and spend too much money on activities that don’t affect instruction or research.

I want the border secured, but think we also need scientifically managed immigration for low skilled work. Also, immigration is a dominant factor in driving up housing costs, particularly for the low income.

No interest in importing religious fundamentalists, including hijabi Muslims. Folks at the southern border need to be vetted.

Unions can be good, but can also affect employment when trading with low wage countries and there are no tariffs. Tariffs can be good in some sectors, but not for basic goods and necessities. Public unions are stupid.

Strong separation of Church and state.

Environmental problems and climate change are real and can be solved. Avoid targeting food and food delivery.

More support for science and reliance on evidence based approaches.



Ditto on pretty much all that. That was pretty epic!
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8996 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 7:18 pm to
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Youre another stupid person with another invalid opinion. Aka, a progressive.


These are seriously the kinds of posts that don't allow this board to live up to its full potential. Just reads like mindless middle school-like jibberish that does nothing to advance the conversation. It's deflating.
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