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re: Will people here admit that the vaccines are working?
Posted on 6/6/21 at 2:50 pm to omegaman66
Posted on 6/6/21 at 2:50 pm to omegaman66
quote:Isn't Ivermectin the one that has had various studies with varying results, and not supported by agencies(not just in the US) as a safer alternative at this point?
Will people here admit there are safer alternatives, such as ivermectin?
I believe it had success in smaller studies but the researches from these studies themselves said more studies were needed, no?
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 2:53 pm to DaleGribble
quote:No
Are you worried about getting polio or small pox after getting those vaccines?
quote:Ok, now I answered your question, so answer. You took exception to me stating the COVID vaccine was never billed to have a 100% effective rate. Are you stating it does have a 100% effective rate? What in my statement do you take exception with?
You didn't answer my question
Posted on 6/6/21 at 2:54 pm to Thecoz
quote:I've said this probably 4 times and each time it gets ignored and the same few dudes keep fighting about this incorrect statement.
He did not lose money because he did not get the vaccine…he lost money because he got covid
Posted on 6/6/21 at 2:57 pm to Thecoz
quote:
He did not lose money because he did not get the vaccine…he lost money because he got covid…he knew he would have to leave if he got covid…he made the choice…I would have taken extra precautions regardless of politics etc in his case…but his choice…he lost because he got sick…no different than if he had some other natural disaster…
His choice and fate…
Nobody is arguing that he didn't know the rules. The argument is that the rules are f'n retarded.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 2:59 pm to Lsupimp
quote:
And the most cynical or politically-invested are intentionally derailing any intelligent discussion.
I hope your comment wasn't directed at me. An intelligent conversation includes all treatments. And ivermectin has proven over decades of use to be safer than the vaccines for covid 19 already and any long-tern affects of the vaccine will only make the differences in safety even more lopsided than they already are.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:01 pm to omegaman66
It was most definitely not directed at you.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:01 pm to shel311
I'm saying that it shouldn't even be called a vaccine. 2 shots, yearly boosters, and still at risk of contracting the virus doesn't sound like a vaccination to me.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:01 pm to David_DJS
But they were clear and stated before …
Life has rules now and then…
Run that stop sign as you go to the store with no shirt to buy some whiskey for that ten year old…
Hey I am a safe driver ….
Life has rules now and then…
Run that stop sign as you go to the store with no shirt to buy some whiskey for that ten year old…
Hey I am a safe driver ….
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:02 pm to shel311
quote:
I've said this probably 4 times and each time it gets ignored and the same few dudes keep fighting about this incorrect statement.
Perhaps some give you credit for being able to connect dots.
The PGA doesn't test guys that have been vaccinated. He could have COVID today and still be playing if he had gotten it in spite of being vaccinated. Granted, small chances he'd get the virus after vaccination, but no smaller than the chances he's at risk with the virus or anyone around him on the golf course is.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:04 pm to Powerman
This is such a straw man. No one I know was mad they developed a vaccine. They are mad they were forced to live in a police state for over a year, told they could “earn back” their constitutional liberties if they did as they were told, and ridiculed if they questioned junk science like wearing masks. Condescending pricks like you are why no one will trust federal public health officials ever again.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:04 pm to DaleGribble
quote:ok, that's still a vaccine. But ok.
I'm saying that it shouldn't even be called a vaccine. 2 shots, yearly boosters, and still at risk of contracting the virus doesn't sound like a vaccination to me.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:05 pm to Powerman
You dont get it do you? Let me spell it out for you. None us believe one damn number that the media is reporting, not one, because every digit of data released has been scrubbed for your viewing. So no there is no possible way we believe COVID numbers are miraculously lowing now that there's a vaccine.
This post was edited on 6/6/21 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:06 pm to Thecoz
quote:
Life has rules now and then…
Again, you're arguing against a position nobody is taking. I don't think anyone is advocating for the Antifa Open, no rules, no such thing as cheating.
I think the arguments are:
1. Are the rules rational given when at we know about the virus?
2. Broadly, is the statement that nobody is being forced/coerced to take the vaccine an accurate one?
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:07 pm to Drizzt
quote:If you read this thread with an open mind, you'd quickly realize it's not a straw man at all.
This is such a straw man.
quote:Again, read the thread, you'd see some posters mentioning this, and others flat out directly, in no uncertain terms, stating the vaccine does not slow the spread or even lessen the symptoms. It's all right in here in this thread.
They are mad they were forced to live in a police state for over a year, told they could “earn back” their constitutional liberties if they did as they were told, and ridiculed if they questioned junk science like wearing masks.
quote:3rd time, read the thread with an open mind, and you'll probably feel pretty silly about calling the OP names because you don't realize just how many people actually think the vaccine doesn't help in any way at all, therefore it's not the strawman you think it is.
Condescending pricks like you are why no one will trust federal public health officials ever again.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:08 pm to Tider13
quote:As reference for my last post right above, see here.
You dont get it do you? Let me spell it out for you. None us believe one damn number that the media is reporting, not one, because every digit of data released has been scrubbed for your viewing. So no there is no possible way we believe COVID numbers are miraculously lowing now that there's a vaccine.
Not the straw man you seem to think it is.
This post was edited on 6/6/21 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:09 pm to Powerman
How would we know. The Biden leftist would start telling us the truth?
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:09 pm to Tider13
And there it is: Because it’s all so fake and phony, it’s All fake and phony. All of it. Even that which is not fake and phony.
Thank you, Leftist Media Overlords.
Thank you, Leftist Media Overlords.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:09 pm to David_DJS
Heard the same arguments when they stated making us wear seatbelts…
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:10 pm to shel311
It sounds more like a flu shot. But people seem to call those vaccines too...and sometime they still get the flu. And sometimes they get it from the flu shot.
If getting this shot makes some people feel safer, go for it. But trying to force or incentivise people into getting it disgusts me.
If getting this shot makes some people feel safer, go for it. But trying to force or incentivise people into getting it disgusts me.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 3:11 pm to Thecoz
quote:
Heard the same arguments when they stated making us wear seatbelts…
People argued that hitting a telephone pole at 80 mph and being thrown through the windshield was no big deal?
Really?
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