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re: Arsenal 2015/2016 Season Long Thread
Posted on 8/9/15 at 12:57 pm to Cheesy Beaver
Posted on 8/9/15 at 12:57 pm to Cheesy Beaver
Might help with a panic buy for a striker.
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Posted on 8/9/15 at 1:12 pm to ATLienTiger
Could have had Suarez up there and still would have lost
Posted on 8/9/15 at 2:47 pm to Cheesy Beaver
quote:
loosing 2-0 to west ham is such an arsenal thing to do
Why? If anything, they are generally more known for taking care of scrubs and doing poorly against the top handful of teams, hence the consistent Top 4 finishes.
I thought they looked really good in general, notwithstanding the poor finishing. Absolutely loaded with CMs and wingers right now. The fact that basically everyone is healty right now outside of Wilshere is very encouraging. Should be a fun year.
This post was edited on 8/9/15 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 8/9/15 at 5:16 pm to Lou Pai
I didn't think we created nearly enough chances. We were very sloppy early.
That is the sort of game we can afford to sit Coquelin and play more aggressive in the midfield. Coq wasn't bad, per se, and he had a few nice moments of creativity, but he's not a threat.
We had more than 60 percent possession. We outshot them 22-8. Only six were on target, though, and two were from Alexis late.
But we had three really costly errors. Two from Cech, obviously, and Ox's giveaway for the second goal (something he's been prone to do in the past, remember Monaco?) was unacceptable.
Like I said, the biggest thing for me is Ozil has to, has to be more direct and dangerous. He is way too willing to play one touch, when at times, it'd be better if he turned and just fricking ran at goal. He used to do that shite all the time with Madrid. He's good at it.
The biggest issue today was balance. Debuchy and Monreal, two defensive minded full backs, can't play together in our system. Ramsey and Coquelin, two energetic but sometimes erratic midfielders, cannot play centrally together.
And Cech has to be better. Period.
Against Palace next week, I'd go with something like this:
Cech
Bellerin (if healthy)-Per-Kosc-Monreal
Coq-Santi
Ox-Ozil-Alexis
Walcott
If Bellerin's thigh is still an issue, Debuchy at RB, Gibbs at LB.
And I'd be okay if Ramsey was on for Coq, but Ramsey's been on shite form lately, IMO.
That is the sort of game we can afford to sit Coquelin and play more aggressive in the midfield. Coq wasn't bad, per se, and he had a few nice moments of creativity, but he's not a threat.
We had more than 60 percent possession. We outshot them 22-8. Only six were on target, though, and two were from Alexis late.
But we had three really costly errors. Two from Cech, obviously, and Ox's giveaway for the second goal (something he's been prone to do in the past, remember Monaco?) was unacceptable.
Like I said, the biggest thing for me is Ozil has to, has to be more direct and dangerous. He is way too willing to play one touch, when at times, it'd be better if he turned and just fricking ran at goal. He used to do that shite all the time with Madrid. He's good at it.
The biggest issue today was balance. Debuchy and Monreal, two defensive minded full backs, can't play together in our system. Ramsey and Coquelin, two energetic but sometimes erratic midfielders, cannot play centrally together.
And Cech has to be better. Period.
Against Palace next week, I'd go with something like this:
Cech
Bellerin (if healthy)-Per-Kosc-Monreal
Coq-Santi
Ox-Ozil-Alexis
Walcott
If Bellerin's thigh is still an issue, Debuchy at RB, Gibbs at LB.
And I'd be okay if Ramsey was on for Coq, but Ramsey's been on shite form lately, IMO.
Posted on 8/9/15 at 5:58 pm to Stewie Griffin
With all the talk about how Palace is a team on the rise, I'm a bit worried about next week.
Posted on 8/9/15 at 6:12 pm to DestrehanTiger
According to his Instagram, Alexis Sanchez stayed after the game to get more training in ... The dude is a beast
Posted on 8/9/15 at 6:21 pm to Stewie Griffin
quote:
Cech
Bellerin (if healthy)-Per-Kosc-Monreal
Coq-Santi
Ox-Ozil-Alexis
Walcott
I don't know Arsenal well but Walcott playing Center Forwards in a 4-2-3-1 seems terrible. Giroud or Welbeck would operate much more effectively with their height and strength.
Posted on 8/9/15 at 6:51 pm to Goose
quote:
I don't know Arsenal well but Walcott playing Center Forwards in a 4-2-3-1 seems terrible. Giroud or Welbeck would operate much more effectively with their height and strength.
Walcott had a first half hat trick to end the season in this formation last year. Had the opening goal in the FA Cup final. Assisted the winner in the Community Shield.
All as the CF in a 4-2-3-1
Posted on 8/10/15 at 3:20 am to Stewie Griffin
quote:
Walcott had a first half hat trick to end the season in this formation last year. Had the opening goal in the FA Cup final. Assisted the winner in the Community Shield.
All as the CF in a 4-2-3-1
Also think it works much better when he plays it next to Alexis. They can interchange very well and their runs open up a lot of things.
My thoughts on the game:
- Giroud is still struggling mightily. The only goal he scored in preseason came off of his shoulder. I remember how much the Henry comments about him fricked up his confidence last season. I wonder if all the talk this offseason about him not being good enough has gotten to him like that did. Either we need to sign someone or start Theo up top.
- I really hope Arsene moving Santi back next to Coquelin at halftime was an admission of that he realizes it isn't working playing Ramsey next to Coquelin. Coquelin wasn't nearly as sharp defensively as he was against Chelsea. I was wondering how much that had to do with Ramsey pushing forward so much more in this game. I think he has a better understanding of where to sit when playing next to Santi. Plus I think it helps with out attack because Santi never seems to get too far away from Coquelin, but Ramsey forced Coquelin to be a much bigger play maker then he is.
- I can't wait to get Alexis back in the starting lineup. His directness is something that is sorely missed when he isn't out there.
- I have to disagree on what some have said about Ozil. I thought he was our best player on the pitch for most of the game. He created multiple scoring chances and nearly had a goal himself at the end of the first if not for a well timed block.
- I keep going back and forth on the Ox. He looked fantastic at times today, but he gave the ball away in a horrible position again.
- Overall I am not too worried. This team has been known to pounce back really well from losses over the years. United and Sp*rs both looked mediocre in their game, Chelsea didn't look great, and Liverpool also struggled. West Ham has been playing competitive matches in Europe. Cech isn't going to be that poor again. Alexis will be starting soon.
I know it has been said that you can only afford 3 or 4 losses and still win the league, but I don't buy that this year. All the money flooding in has led to the mid table teams getting better and I don't think anyone at the top is going to be overly dominant.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:34 am to RTR America
quote:
- I have to disagree on what some have said about Ozil. I thought he was our best player on the pitch for most of the game. He created multiple scoring chances and nearly had a goal himself at the end of the first if not for a well timed block.
Ozil was pretty good. I just want to see a little more directness in some of his play. He's never going to be a guy who gets on the ball, takes three touches, and blasts it in the corner like Coutinho did to win the game for Liverpool, but sometimes he could do with a turn and a run at goal. Again, having Alexis, as you mentioned, back in action alleviates this need.
That was the first game Coquelin has been off defensively, but neither goal was his fault. I do think he lacks a certain cutting edge to his passing that Arteta might provide against teams with less danger going forward.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:52 am to Stewie Griffin
everything in my head says he isn't coming
BUT I WANT TO BELIEVE
BUT I WANT TO BELIEVE
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:17 am to RTR America
quote:
Ramsey forced Coquelin to be a much bigger play maker then he is.
I agree with this. Coq had way too many pass attempts over 20 yards. There was one in particular that Arlo White's color guy (blanking on his name) pointed out. Arsenal was starting a counter and needed to start moving left. Instead of giving the ball to the nearest player to his left, Coq launched the ball across the field and, I believe, out of bounds. I think it works best with Santi back there with him to take the ball from him whenever he gets it.
Also, this was pointed out on Arsecast today, but the fact that we had to play Alexis yesterday could be worrisome. He was clearly not ready. They made the point that we may have loaned out Chuba too early in the transfer window. Maybe Arsene should have waited for Alexis and Welbeck to get back to match fitness.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:32 am to DestrehanTiger
Yeah I listened to it too. I just don't think Akpom would have been thrown out there regardless. We moved Ox to RB, so I don't think we were limited in attackers.
Arsene mentioned going in to the game that he was thinking about giving Alexis a run anyways, so I don't think it was too rash to throw him out there.
Arsene mentioned going in to the game that he was thinking about giving Alexis a run anyways, so I don't think it was too rash to throw him out there.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:25 pm to RTR America
No one is afraid of Giroud and that's the problem. Walcott should be up top.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:12 pm to Lou Pai
went to the game, overall had a good time. but its the same Wenger bullshite. Sanchez shouldn't have even been on the bench. I love that our team can pass the ball, but omfg. shoot the fricking thing. like the supporters say, they lack that killer instinct. they have been lacking it for some time now.
oh and cech was fricking awful. like really awful.
oh and cech was fricking awful. like really awful.
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:17 pm to WhoDatNC
quote:
No one is afraid of Giroud and that's the problem.
lol, he got shite service and was running down the flank because Wenger plays a central player on the fricking wing that doesn't belong there. this has nothing to do with giroud.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:21 pm to dgnx6
Yeah, time to stop logjamming all our 10s into the side.
Alexis and Ox should start on the wings, with Theo mixed in or up top. Same for Welbeck when healthy.
Let Aaron and Santi duke it out for the B2B role next to Coq. This Santi or Ramsey wide thing is too forced.
Alexis and Ox should start on the wings, with Theo mixed in or up top. Same for Welbeck when healthy.
Let Aaron and Santi duke it out for the B2B role next to Coq. This Santi or Ramsey wide thing is too forced.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:28 pm to Stewie Griffin
If Wenger wants to play 4 central midfielders he should probably stick with a diamond formation with Sanchez and Theo/Giroud up top.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 8:44 am to cwil177
quote:So what you are saying is he is our Wambauch? I want a Henry, Aguero, Suarez type of striker up top. Walcott has the potential...
lol, he got shite service and was running down the flank because Wenger plays a central player on the fricking wing that doesn't belong there. this has nothing to do with giroud.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:10 pm to dgnx6
quote:
No one is afraid of Giroud and that's the problem.
this is still true though. he has great aerial skills but as a centre back I'd never be afraid of him running past me or shooting from 15 yards out because well....IT NEVER HAPPENS. part of that I'm sure is in part of the wanting to one touch to the goal but you can only take so many dribbles towards goal before someone has to pull the trigger.
I want someone who wants to be selfish sometimes. I want someone to blast the ball on goal to keep the defense on point and Theo does that plus his speed will always have to be kept in check.
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